The Indians would do the deal now... but Beltran is refusing so far... doesn't want to go to Cleveland.

Excellent post.

 

If #1 were to play out, would we be looking at ARam?

 

I would love to have him, but I have no idea if there is a good fit for a trade or if ARam would approve it.

Ozzie says he will find a way to get Rios and De Aza in the linup....wow Ozzie just needs to go away

Ozzie says he will find a way to get Rios and De Aza in the linup....wow Ozzie just needs to go away

 

 

Probably a DH Platoon with CQ and Dunn with Rios playing RF vs LHP.

And I'm going to say you belong in a rubber room.

 

Edwin Jackson + 2 relievers? You think KW couldn't have done better? Are you joking?

Which shows you how weak TOR system was at that time and nothing more. Their #1 prospect wasn't even a top 100 prospect.

None of that s*** matters.

 

Someone put up a link of a Sickels ranking where Sickels says Stewart's stuff is "slightly better than Drabek's." I know nothing about Stewart, but if that is even remotely true, Kenny has just fornicated.

 

And also (not referring to this specific post, just speaking generally) Hudson DOES NOT MATTER at this point, neither does Getz/Fields or the salary of the Teahen deal. If Kenny could go back in time to last July/December with the knowledge that we weren't going to win last year and were also going to suck ass this year, neither of these deals would have happened. Kenny made them to take a shot at winning. Teahen was a terrible idea from the get-go, but Jackson was a ballsy win-now move that didn't work out. Instead of (as some posters seem to advocate) crying about everything and acting like pansies and lamenting the past, Kenny got a good deal for Jackson and dumped a bad deal. It takes sac to make the first Jackson deal, and it also takes sac to dump a Linebrink/Teahen when you have to. Kenny deserves props for that. My only complaint ATM is Kenny needs to stick this sac of his in Ozzie's face and tell him to live with it or take his talents to South Beach. If Kenny did what *HE* wanted to do more of the time we'd be better off for it.

Edited July 27, 201114 yr by Kenny Hates Prospects

I'm going to say that yes KW could have easily bested this.

 

Rz....is a very highly regarded lefty reliever in the majors this year, regarding his trade value.

Edited July 27, 201114 yr by fathom

Quick question would you do John Danks for Ivan Nova and Austin Romine? Maybe even toss in Laird, not sure of your 1B/3B position

I'm going to say that yes KW could have easily bested this.

Easily. But the salary moves were the order.

Edwin Jackson + 2 relievers? You think KW couldn't have done better? Are you joking?

 

Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team.

So can someone smarter than myself illustrate how we save 9.5 million from this?

Quick question would you do John Danks for Ivan Nova and Austin Romine? Maybe even toss in Laird, not sure of your 1B/3B position

Paul Konerko plays 1B for us.

 

And no.

I'm PM'ing you my PayPal number. I'd like the $5000.00 by the end of the day, please.

Maybe if you had admitted your source was Kona and not pretended as though you had some inside knowledge when you didn't I would have believed you.

 

You did nothing other than take a post from an actual source.

 

I give you credit for posting it here first, but nothing else.

Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team.

When does this break start? Because you said this like an hour ago.

And I'm going to say you belong in a rubber room.

 

How is that? We had Jackson, and better relievers than they gave up.

 

I don't even like Rasmus nearly as much as some do on this site, but it's clear to me the Sox could have had him rather easily, but it was instead about dumping Teahen's contract.

 

Pathetic. We are worse off this year than we were and no better for the future. Save a few million we can't spend. I can't believe how far this organization has fallen. And I stuck up for KW a lot, in the past.

 

Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team.

 

Something I just thought of is that it's very possible the Sox envision an outfield next year of Rios, De Aza and Viciedo...and thus, don't feel like they had room for Rasmus. De Aza would be their slappy leadoff hitter, of course

Ozzie says he will find a way to get Rios and De Aza in the linup....wow Ozzie just needs to go away

 

He may not have a choice of Kenny trades Rios in the upcoming days

I bet Edwin KILLS it in the NL central.

When does this break start? Because you said this like an hour ago.

 

That was Steve.

Ozzie says he will find a way to get Rios and De Aza in the linup....wow Ozzie just needs to go away

That puts Juan on the bench.

How is that? We had Jackson, and better relievers than they gave up.

 

I don't even like Rasmus nearly as much as some do on this site, but it's clear to me the Sox could have had him rather easily, but it was instead about dumping Teahen's contract.

 

Pathetic. We are worse off this year than we were and no better for the future. Save a few million we can't spend. I can't believe how far this organization has fallen. And I stuck up for KW a lot, in the past.

 

I edited. I read something that was totally wrong, obviously.

Rz....is a very highly regarded lefty reliever in the majors this year, regarding his trade value.

It tells me one thing, the Sox and Cards did talk about a deal surrounding Thornton and Jackson plus a prospect.

Rz....is a very highly regarded lefty reliever in the majors this year, regarding his trade value.

 

Probably has higher value than Thornton even tho Thornton has a better past, he s*** the bed this season which screwed us since we would have been selling him low which I still think we might do. And Dotel is decent and is great against righties. But we weren't far off from getting it done it seems.

We could have done Jackson, Thornton, and not even Viciedo, maybe Reed, I dunno if STL wanted immediate help, which wat Tor offered.

He may not have a choice of Kenny trades Rios in the upcoming days

I couldn't envision any team trading for Rios even if we paid his entire salary.

Quick question would you do John Danks for Ivan Nova and Austin Romine? Maybe even toss in Laird, not sure of your 1B/3B position

 

I do like Romine, but for Danks would need a SP with a higher ceiling.