Flowers has impressed me these last couple games. He's still not an average defensive catcher, but he made a nice play on that foul ball earlier this inning and seems to call a decent game. Danks is working quickly and not shaking Tyler off. Throw in two good offensive games in a row and I'm starting to turn the corner on Flowers. I was really down on him with all the minor league strikeouts, but I've come to peace with the fact that he can be an acceptable backup catcher. I doubt he'll be an everyday player, but he's a Major Leaguer. I wasn't so sure earlier.

Calling Juan a terrible baseball player is just wrong.

It is so wrong.

 

Juan is a terrible baseball player who happens to have good contact skills. One redeeming quality does not make him much less of a terrible player. At his best, he is average.

D1 has just flatlined here.

Wow, how do you have no one warming up?

Wow, how do you have no one warming up?

 

Ohman just got up.

Juan is a terrible baseball player who happens to have good contact skills. One redeeming quality does not make him much less of a terrible player. At his best, he is average.

 

Last season he played the best OF of his life and was around average, so this is pretty much accurate.

Juan is a terrible baseball player who happens to have good contact skills. One redeeming quality does not make him much less of a terrible player. At his best, he is average.

 

Who on this team is a "good" baseball player? Tell me.

Danks now can not get an out he has no ability to control his pitch count and is a great 6 inning pitcher

Who on this team is a "good" baseball player? Tell me.

 

Ramirez, Konerko, Quentin, and a lot of the pitchers.

 

Maybe Lillibridge if he doesn't turn into a pumpkin with more PT.

Ramirez, Konerko, Quentin, and a lot of the pitchers.

 

Maybe Lillibridge if he doesn't turn into a pumpkin with more PT.

 

OK, Lexi Konerko and Quentin are good baseball players. No wonder we have a s***ty team with just three good players.

I guess a .500 record is pretty damn good with just three good players.

Edited August 14, 201114 yr by greg775

OK, Lexi Konerko and Quentin are good baseball players. No wonder we have a s***ty team with just three good players.

I guess a .500 record is pretty damn good with just three good players.

Did you miss the phrase "A lot of the pitchers"?

 

Anwyay, you're actually right, the fact taht 5 of the spots in our lineup have been s***ty is why we're struggling to reach .500.

Did you miss the phrase "A lot of the pitchers"?

 

Anwyay, you're actually right, the fact taht 5 of the spots in our lineup have been s***ty is why we're struggling to reach .500.

 

I've been talking everyday players, not pitchers.

My bad if he wants to talk pitchers too.

 

One might argue Ozzie is manager of the year not a bum with just three good everyday players to work with.

Edited August 14, 201114 yr by greg775

I've been talking everyday players, not pitchers.

My bad if he wants to talk pitchers too.

 

One might argue Ozzie is manager of the year not a bum with just three good everyday players to work with.

Except for the fact that 4 of those guys ought to be producing better than they are...which is supposedly why you keep a manager around who isn't a great tactical manager, to "motivate" players, to "get the best" out of players. Which he's clearly abjectly failed at.

A team with 3 good players and a lot of good pitching should be around .500. Pitching and defense are half the game. I didn't even need sabermetrics to tell me that.

Except for the fact that 4 of those guys ought to be producing better than they are...which is supposedly why you keep a manager around who isn't a great tactical manager, to "motivate" players, to "get the best" out of players. Which he's clearly abjectly failed at.

 

So some of those other guys are "good" baseball players just not producing currently? Just wondering.

 

In the day and age of Sabes I would think some of the people I'm arguing with would say those other players are NOT good baseball players. Cause their standards are pretty high if Juan is not considered "good" and in fact more than one calling him "terrible."

Hey, what do ya know, the Tigers were down 8-1 going in to the 9th, and now have the tying run a the plate with 0 outs.........f***ING AWESOME JOB BALTIMORE.

So some of those other guys are "good" baseball players just not producing currently? Just wondering.

 

In the day and age of Sabes I would think some of the people I'm arguing with would say those other players are NOT good baseball players. Cause their standards are pretty high if Juan is not considered "good" and in fact more than one calling him "terrible."

Yes. Gordon Beckham, Adam Dunn, Alex Rios, these are talented players who are in teh lineup almost everyday who are not producing.

Frasor looks like he has no clue where the ball is going

Andy Dirks strikes out, Magglio grounds out. O's walk Miggy to load the bases up.

 

It's up to Will Rhymes, tying run at 1st, 2 outs in the 9th.

Edited August 14, 201114 yr by JoeCoolMan24

Game over! Yes! 4.5 back now.

Close call in Baltimore

Tigers lost

Off to church. Hope we hang on.

Bruney and gray are no worse than frasor

Yeah, Frasor has not been impressive at all. Thank god we got Zach Stewart in that trade, he looks like the centerpiece for sure.