Konerko is one hitter. And, he's the one hitter who in 2011 hit comparably to his norms/expectations (average-wise he was actually higher, though power-wise he was down a bit).

 

This is both an indictment of Walker, and something to give hope for 2012 with a different hitting coach, but think about this for a second... of the Sox starting lineup hitters on Opening Day: Pierre, Rios, Quentin, Morel*, Ramirez, Beckham, Konerko, AJP, Dunn... which of them actually performed at the level of their career norms or base expectations at a minimum? Konerko, maybe Quentin. Six bombed out, and not just a little below averages in most cases, but a lot worse. Morel we can leave out of the discussion - a rookie who took 5 months to develop, but then did, as per his usual pattern.

 

When your offense underperforms that badly (and most of them did in 2010 too, BTW) for that long, it is time to make a change. One hitter cannot be used to sacrifice 8 others.

Morel is a rookie, Pierre is doing what he always does, Ramirez, AJP what they always do. There are 3 White Sox underperforming offensively, Dunn, Rios and Beckham. Even though the AL league ERA is 4.06, no Cooper bashing for Floyd and Danks being below average.

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Outside of Fans... Has any player stated that Walker didn't help him, after they left..

 

ANd for the record, I think Hitting coaches are overrated... So I am not a fan nor hater of walker.

Outside of Fans... Has any player stated that Walker didn't help him, after they left..

 

ANd for the record, I think Hitting coaches are overrated... So I am not a fan nor hater of walker.

Aaron Rowand, and has any hitter ever bashed him for ruining them and costing them millions of dollars?

Morel is a rookie, Pierre is doing what he always does, Ramirez, AJP what they always do. There are 3 White Sox underperforming offensively, Dunn, Rios and Beckham. Even though the AL league ERA is 4.06, no Cooper bashing for Floyd and Danks being below average.

 

You can always start a thread about Cooper.

 

Has Paulie ever had a bad word to say about anyone?

Has Paulie ever had a bad word to say about anyone?

 

He once stated Saddam Hussein was just misunderstood.

Has Paulie ever had a bad word to say about anyone?

He and Big Frank had some arguments at times, and I'm pretty sure I remember Paulie sort of hinting at him not being his favorite guy. But hinting is as far as it went I think.

 

He and Big Frank had some arguments at times, and I'm pretty sure I remember Paulie sort of hinting at him not being his favorite guy. But hinting is as far as it went I think.

 

IIRC he insinuated he was a bit of a wimp.

IIRC he insinuated he was a bit of a wimp.

Perhaps he should insinuate those things about some of his current teammates and even Ozzie (sucking off the Twins every year and not going after pitchers after we've been beaned).

Those things might ahve been said by a younger version of PK14.

Perhaps he should insinuate those things about some of his current teammates and even Ozzie (sucking off the Twins every year and not going after pitchers after we've been beaned).

 

I'm surprised he didn't last night. That was as pissed as you will ever see PK.

If everyone on the team had the same work ethic and commitment to the game and hitting like Konerko does... I bet people would be begging for Walker to stay right now.

I'm surprised he didn't last night. That was as pissed as you will ever see PK.

 

Whoa wait. What happened last night?

Whoa wait. What happened last night?

 

CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini

Herm strolling out to see PK after HBP, without urgency

 

ESPNChiSox Doug Padilla

Konerko calling that HBP a bleeping joke. Still hot at first base.

 

scottmerkin Scott Merkin

Konerko about as angry as you are going to see him after taking Putnam's pitch off the left hip. Still kicking angrily at the dirt at first

 

CST_soxvan Daryl Van Schouwen

Konerko as hot as I've seen him after getting hit near hip... Reading lips, "Bleeping joke!" was his reax

 

CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini

Apparently you are no longer allowed to hit Paul Konerko with a pitch.

 

CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini

Herm strolling out to see PK after HBP, without urgency

 

ESPNChiSox Doug Padilla

Konerko calling that HBP a bleeping joke. Still hot at first base.

 

scottmerkin Scott Merkin

Konerko about as angry as you are going to see him after taking Putnam's pitch off the left hip. Still kicking angrily at the dirt at first

 

CST_soxvan Daryl Van Schouwen

Konerko as hot as I've seen him after getting hit near hip... Reading lips, "Bleeping joke!" was his reax

 

CSNChi_Beatnik Brett Ballantini

Apparently you are no longer allowed to hit Paul Konerko with a pitch.

 

 

An angry Paul Konerko would either hit 50 HR or 10 HR.

Oh wow I missed that.

 

Yeah, I'm sure after taking that awful one in the calf last month (I was there) he's getting pretty damn tired of being hit by pitches.

Oh wow I missed that.

 

Yeah, I'm sure after taking that awful one in the calf last month (I was there) he's getting pretty damn tired of being hit by pitches.

I may be completely wrong, or dreaming, or nuts, or all three, and many more things, but doesn't Paulie have some sort of degenerative hip condition? Maybe he's just overly sensitive in that area.

 

Pre-edit edit: Decided to google first. My brain rocks... some s*** article from 1998. Things seem to have worked out alright for the White Sox. Ignore the hip s***, but still interesting to read something from so long ago.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-11...-vice-president

Even if he doesn't can you imagine? Ow. Right on the bone?

Even if he doesn't can you imagine? Ow. Right on the bone?

I may be completely wrong, or dreaming, or nuts, or all three, and many more things, but doesn't Paulie have some sort of degenerative hip condition? Maybe he's just overly sensitive in that area.

 

Pre-edit edit: Decided to google first. My brain rocks... some s*** article from 1998. Things seem to have worked out alright for the White Sox. Ignore the hip s***, but still interesting to read something from so long ago.

 

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-11...-vice-president

 

The hips problems came up again in 2003 or 2004 I want to say. I know it affected him here at one point.

Perhaps he should insinuate those things about some of his current teammates and even Ozzie (sucking off the Twins every year and not going after pitchers after we've been beaned).

 

Maybe he doesn't feel that way about his current teammates or manager Squirt. Anyway, when the best hitter on the team endorses the hitting coach it is something that has to be taken into account when deciding whether or not to retain Walker. I'm sure chairman Reinsdorf is listening.

Maybe he doesn't feel that way about his current teammates or manager Squirt. Anyway, when the best hitter on the team endorses the hitting coach it is something that has to be taken into account when deciding whether or not to retain Walker. I'm sure chairman Reinsdorf is listening.

 

I seriously doubt it. Walker is so gone that it isn't even debatable.

Unless you have some inside information, I think that statement is highly debatable. Everything I know suggests Walker is extremely well liked and respected by the White Sox front office. He may not return, but its not close to a done deal.

Unless you have some inside information, I think that statement is highly debatable. Everything I know suggests Walker is extremely well liked and respected by the White Sox front office. He may not return, but its not close to a done deal.

I think the front office also likes winning and ticket sales.

Unless you have some inside information, I think that statement is highly debatable. Everything I know suggests Walker is extremely well liked and respected by the White Sox front office. He may not return, but its not close to a done deal.

 

It really isn't. It's common sense at this point. But I don't have inside information, so you'll argue it until the very end.