Belichick has built the system around them. Yes, they are talented and athletic, but they aren't the greatest TEs in football, and Gronkowski physically is no better than Greg Olsen. It's the system. Belichick has decided he wants to make a showcase of his TE's and that is what is happening. He decided years ago he wanted Brady to set the TD record, and it happened as well.

 

I credit it all to Belichick, not some new wave, "oh my god the Pats somehow have the two best TE's in the game", theory.

 

At no point did I say either of those things.

Compared to the last few years as well, Brady doesn't have the kind of WR dominance he had with Moss on the outside, and he hasn't had his previous checkdown target (Faulk) for quite a while, he hasn't had the running game he had backing him when they were winning titles, and he hasn't had the defense he had when they were winning titles (so Brady must put points up). So there is a lot of difference there.

 

But yeah, they're still quite good, and I think Gronkowski is a couple steps above Olsen.

Compared to the last few years as well, Brady doesn't have the kind of WR dominance he had with Moss on the outside, and he hasn't had his previous checkdown target (Faulk) for quite a while, he hasn't had the running game he had backing him when they were winning titles, and he hasn't had the defense he had when they were winning titles (so Brady must put points up). So there is a lot of difference there.

 

But yeah, they're still quite good, and I think Gronkowski is a couple steps above Olsen.

 

he still has Welker, who is either 1 or 2 in receptions this season. And Branch is no slouch either. i will give you faulk and the lack of a running game, but Brady has 4 pretty damn good recievers to throw to

See, the moment you refer to Deion Branch as "pretty damn good" is the moment I start to ignore you.

System + good QB

Also, gronkowski doesn't appear to be afraid of getting hit, unlike Olsen.

Olsen and Gronkowski are about the same only Gronkowski is bigger and faster. Oh and he has better hands and can block.

 

I got them MOOOOooooOOOOooves Like Welker.

Kyle Orton put on waivers by Broncos today

Kyle Orton put on waivers by Broncos today

Clearly the Bears will be claiming him. THEY f***ING SHOULD TOO.

Kyle Orton waived by the Broncos today. I wonder if the Bears would have a chance to pick him up by Sunday. He would be an OK option to serve as a backup to Caleb. He did OK in the caretaker role back in 2005-06.

Dude, i'd love to have orton back. Maybe he's changed, but I used to love getting the pictures of him drunk as hell with stains all over his shirt.

Bellichick is just taking advantage of undervalued assets in the marketplace to maximize his resources...he's smart enough to understand how to incorporate them into his systems to achieve success. Obviously, much of this revolves around having one of the best qb's in history, but that's all he's doing.

Does the AFC get first dibs on him, like in baseball?

NECKBEARD!

I bet someone else puts in a claim.

NO, i want neckbeard.

Bellichick is just taking advantage of undervalued assets in the marketplace to maximize his resources...he's smart enough to understand how to incorporate them into his systems to achieve success. Obviously, much of this revolves around having one of the best qb's in history, but that's all he's doing.

MONEYBALL

If I were the Chiefs I would claim neckbeard. Cause that Tyler Palko is pretty awful at football.

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Does the AFC get first dibs on him, like in baseball?

 

I don't believe so, it just goes by record, worst to first. Since the Bears have such a tough strength of schedule, I believe they are 30th in the waiver order, only ahead of GB & SF. I think they have the best SOS of all the 7-3 teams, which sucks for them.

 

 

 

 

If I were the Chiefs I would claim neckbeard. Cause that Tyler Palko is pretty awful at football.

 

He actually didn't look that bad. And it wouldn't make any sense for KC to claim Orton anyways.

How long would it take for Orton to learn the Martz system?

Please bring Kyle Orton back.

If I were the Chiefs I would claim neckbeard. Cause that Tyler Palko is pretty awful at football.

Yeah, he blows. So does Skelton and Bartel for AZ.