RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't remember CJ being electric on offense, ever. All he can do is hit the occasional 3. He can't do anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 09:58 PM) I don't remember CJ being electric on offense, ever. All he can do is hit the occasional 3. He can't do anything else. Well occasionally he can hit 3 or 4 occasional 3's in a row. He's a hell of a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Kirky can do the same thing, and much more. Kirks FAAAR better playoff performance history is reason alone to prefer him over C.J., who's been nothing but a playoff choker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 11:11 PM) Kirky can do the same thing, and much more. Kirks FAAAR better playoff performance history is reason alone to prefer him over C.J., who's been nothing but a playoff choker. Kirk Hinrich can't explode for 30-40 on any given night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Neither can C.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 11:21 PM) Neither can C.J. Sure he can, the guy played a lot of this season with a bum arm and people hold it wayyyy too much against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Come on son...in what world is CJ going to score 30-40 points? He's been an inefficient scorer for the Bulls, he might score that many if he played starter minutes and took 25 shots per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 11:48 PM) Come on son...in what world is CJ going to score 30-40 points? He's been an inefficient scorer for the Bulls, he might score that many if he played starter minutes and took 25 shots per game. Denver two years ago. JL3 missed 2 free throws, Melo hits game winning three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yeah that was one measly game. Given a large enough sample size and starter minutes, I'm sure Hinrich can manage a once-in-a-lifetime 30 point effort too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 12:38 AM) Yeah that was one measly game. Given a large enough sample size and starter minutes, I'm sure Hinrich can manage a once-in-a-lifetime 30 point effort too. Have you ever actually watched CJ Watson play? This is a serious question. Hinrich's never done this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 07:10 AM) Poor DBAHO. Seemed like Magic fans thought they'd get a lot for Anderson. Yep we're officially in re-building mode now. That's what happens when Otis Smith puts you in cap hell I suppose. Ryan Anderson and Jeff Green are both getting 4/34 apparently, I know which one I'd certainly rather. The Hornets with Davis, Gordon and Anderson suddenly look like a potential playoff team IMO. Could be the next OKC to emerge from the doldrums potentially. Have to say I'm suprised we didn't at least get a future 1st out of this though. Ayon is cheap and will be a decent enough backup big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:33 AM) Hinrich's never done this: Except for that time he did this: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxsco...0801230CHI.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (Felix @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 06:38 AM) Except for that time he did this: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxsco...0801230CHI.html Felix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Listen, I'm willing to admit that many of us became jaded when it comes to CJ because of the way he played hurt. When healthy, he was a competent backup. That doesn't change the fact that he really wasn't the best fit -- he was a terrible defender and far too high volume of a shooter. Sometimes he would make up for poor shot selection with the ability to make shots, sure. However, I feel like that just isn't what we want on a Thibodeau type of team. Kirk isn't exactly John Stockton, but I trust him to be a more team-oriented leader on offense, still knock down open jumpers when needed, and play far better defense than any of last year's point guards. I also believe we'll see Kirk play the 2, particularly when the opposing 2 is 6'5" or less. He can get a few extra minutes by being on the court at the same time as Teague and being a more defense-oriented 2 when the situation calls for it. We saw this in the early days of Rose's career as well. Ideally, it'd be like having a Keith Bogans that has offensive game...but I don't know if Kirk still has it on D, we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 I think the fact that we're debating who's better between Kirk Hinrich and CJ Watson shows what a sad state of affairs the 2012/13 Chicago Bulls really are going to be. It feels like we've regressed about 5 years with this signing, but that really had already happened the moment Derrick tore his ACL. The Bulls are maxed out and built poorly around Rose and it showed in the playoffs last year. We basically became the LeBron James Cavaliers, and our star isn't as good as James was even in those days. Thank God the league on the whole is entertaining to watch, because next year for the Bulls is going to be rough. You aren't winning an NBA Championship with a healthy Derrick Rose and a 45 year old Rip Hamilton at the 2, unless you have a superstar up front which the Bulls don't. They are poorly built and need contracts to go away. Hopefully Derrick can have some longevity, but with one bum wheel already chances are the Bulls are pretty f***ed and won't see a title anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 And with zero work put in and some risky trades, the Mad Russian has built a long-term Championship contender (assuming it goes through). I hate the NBA one post after saying I like it. Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that the "tentacles" of a 14-player trade involving Dwight Howard are in place and that a deal involving three, or possibly four, teams could be in the works very soon. While all the particulars are not yet known, the deal could go down as soon as Monday where Brook Lopez, additional players and multiple draft picks may be going to Orlando, Kris Humphries and a potential pick could be on their way to Cleveland and MarShon Brooks possibly entering the fray as a trade chip going to a fourth team to make the deal work financially. The deal would gut the Nets roster of players, but it would get them to their end goal of finally getting Howard in a Brooklyn uniform. Sources have also said that Magic brass are set for a Monday meeting at 9 am ET to see if this is truly the deal they want to make. The nation's Dwightmare may be close to coming to an end in short order. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Seriously, some dumb team is always willing to jump in to make things work to create super teams. If the moronic f***ing Minnesota Twimberwolves don't s*** themselves to acquire Michael f***ing Beasley, the summer that shan't be named never happens. Now this - the s***ty Cavaliers (a team that should know better) are hopping in to help Dwight get to f***ing Brooklyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) Seriously, some dumb team is always willing to jump in to make things work to create super teams. If the moronic f***ing Minnesota Twimberwolves don't s*** themselves to acquire Michael f***ing Beasley, the summer that shan't be named never happens. Now this - the s***ty Cavaliers (a team that should know better) are hopping in to help Dwight get to f***ing Brooklyn. The league, and s***ty teams like the cavaliers, make more money when there are things like the Heat, Lakers, Nets drawing crowds. If they can't have a #1 seed themselves, then they can keep their salary low and fatten up on revenue sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippedoutpunk Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 The Cavs GM so desperate to stop lebron hes willing to help brooklyn get dwight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 @SpearsNBAYahoo Possible complication in Dwight 3way deal is Nets FA Kris Humphries would seek 4yr deal with CLE and wouldn't sign 1yr pact, sources tell Y! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) Have you ever actually watched CJ Watson play? This is a serious question. Hinrich's never done this: Nothing he did in Golden State matters. It's golden state. Watson has never shot even 50% TS% in a Bulls uniform. He sucks. Period, end of story. Let him go back to Golden State and chuck to his hearts content. That way you can be really impressed by how many PPG he scores, and we won't have to worry about his inability to run an offense or shoot efficiently in a Bulls uniform any more. Edited July 9, 2012 by RZZZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 @WojYahooNBA In proposed blockbuster, Orlando would send Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark to Brooklyn, sources tell Y! Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 12:41 PM) @WojYahooNBA In proposed blockbuster, Orlando would send Dwight Howard, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark to Brooklyn, sources tell Y! Sports. Jeez, Richardson is actually an ok fit for that team. Wow, the f***ing Nets are going to be damn good. PG Deron Williams SG Joe Johnson SF Jason Richardson PF Gerald Wallace C Dwight Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Yup...another superteam to contend with in our conference. yay for us :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 In current structure of deal, Orlando gets Brook Lopez, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Luke Walton and 3 or 4 1st rounders, sources tell Y! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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