August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) I was going to post my KW meme from the other thread, since it mentioned Cliff Lee, but it's no longer there. I saw it a few days ago... would totally work here haha
August 3, 201213 yr The only three possibilities are LAD, DET, and CHW, because Kenny's in that mode.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Jeff Liefer @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:07 PM) Didn't KW claim Rios to block him from Detroit a few years ago? I think Detroit would have first claim right here
August 3, 201213 yr I have a bad feeling it is Detroit. Despite rumors that they are looking for another bat, this is what they need and what would make them very frightening. If it is them, I just hope Phillie pulls him back. On the other hand, if it's us, let us have him. Hell, it's not my money (directly at least).
August 3, 201213 yr I've honestly not followed anything in the NL this year. Is Lee's issue poor run support this year?
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (PorkChopExpress @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:16 PM) I have a bad feeling it is Detroit. Despite rumors that they are looking for another bat, this is what they need and what would make them very frightening. If it is them, I just hope Phillie pulls him back. On the other hand, if it's us, let us have him. Hell, it's not my money (directly at least). I hope it is Detroit and they have to deal with the rest of that contract.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:17 PM) I hope it is Detroit and they have to deal with the rest of that contract. Me too...I would love to see it be them and take on the whole contract.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 05:13 PM) He can block trades to all but 8 clubs... I've never figured out if that also means he can block a straight waiver claim. The Phils will have about $123.5 million next year committed to Howard, Lee, Utley, Halladay, Hamels, Papelbon and Rollins. The next year, assuming they pick up Halladay's option, $92.5 million to Hamels, Howard, Lee, and Halladay. I'd let him go.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:17 PM) I hope it is Detroit and they have to deal with the rest of that contract. Detroit is the worst possible team to claim him IMO. First, they're our only competition for the division this year and Lee would be a difference maker for them. Second, if any AL team can afford to take on that contract it's the Tigers. Not only is Illitch willing to spend, but I don't think they're near the luxury tax threshold and I believe they're receiving revenue sharing money. I don't see any positives from them grabbing him, unless you think he completely breaks down in the next year or two.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) The only three possibilities are LAD, DET, and CHW, because Kenny's in that mode. Yankees?
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:13 PM) He can block trades to all but 8 clubs... Waiver claim =/= trade.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 05:27 PM) Detroit is the worst possible team to claim him IMO. First, they're our only competition for the division this year and Lee would be a difference maker for them. Second, if any AL team can afford to take on that contract it's the Tigers. Not only is Illitch willing to spend, but I don't think they're near the luxury tax threshold and I believe they're receiving revenue sharing money. I don't see any positives from them grabbing him, unless you think he completely breaks down in the next year or two. Claiming Lee would not put them over the tax threshold this year, but it would start making them dangerously close next year. Counting arbitration guys, they're currently sitting at about $135 million committed next year. Add in $25 million for Lee...and now they're at $160 million, with Delmon Young and Jose Valverde free agents this offseason (so, they need a closer at the very least).
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 03:51 PM) Cliff Lee Claimed On Waivers By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 3 at 3:46pm CST] Phillies left-hander Cliff Lee has been claimed on waivers, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The Phillies can now pull Lee back off of waivers, assign his contract to the team that won the claim, or work a trade out with the claiming team. Lee can block trades and claims to 21 teams, which could limit the Phillies' flexibility, depending on the identity of the claiming team. How does it work if its a team he has no trade protection against if they just want him to be claimed? If I'm Philadelphia, I'd see if I could get something first and if not, I'd free myself up from the now $95 million in future committments to a 34 year old who seems to be going the wrong way and let him go.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) Waiver claim =/= trade. He can still block it.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:17 PM) I've honestly not followed anything in the NL this year. Is Lee's issue poor run support this year? He has an over .900 OPS against when pitching from the stretch. He hasn't been very good. I hope it is Detroit. It can't be the White Sox. If they don"t think Buehrle is worth $58 million, no way they gamble $95 million on Cliff Lee.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 04:35 PM) He can still block it. Hm. That's silly.
August 3, 201213 yr This is what Lee gets, by the way. He came running back to the Phillies after they dealt him for Halladay. They don't care about you, dude!
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 02:38 PM) He has an over .900 OPS against when pitching from the stretch. He hasn't been very good. Thanks for the head's up.
August 3, 201213 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 05:38 PM) Hm. That's silly. They signed the contract. If they're stuck with him, they're stuck with him.
August 3, 201213 yr Amaro on Cliff Lee's status: "He's not going anywhere." Rotoworld is already saying he was pulled back.
August 3, 201213 yr Oh Phillies you are so funny with your delusions. They just passed on a get out of jail free card.
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