southsideirish71 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Running into outs. Is Ventura reading the Ozzie Guillen approach to losing the division. Let Beckham concentrate on the AB and not forcing the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claydude14 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Just keep drinking, they'll start hitting. If not, just keep drinking. This Natty Daddy is God awful, but at 99 cents a pop it's a nice get f***ed up on a tight budget tallboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Ugh this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Here's the $64,000 question: is the offense choking, tired because Robin has used the regulars too much this year, or some combination of both? And, if think it's both, is it MORE the choking part or the tired part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 06:59 PM) If this continues the rest of the year, it will be interesting who the scapegoat is. Â Â Hard to blame Cooper with the rookies and 3 guys pushed well beyond the limit in terms of their past and recent seasons (Peavy, Quintana, Sale) as well as the erratic, uncoachable Liriano. Â That leaves Ventura, Manto and KW. Â Â Funny, the Yankees can always use pitching these days and gave up on both Quintana and McAllister, who suddenly looks like a world-beater in the crisp SEPT weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) Here's the $64,000 question: is the offense choking, tired because Robin has used the regulars too much this year, or some combination of both? And, if think it's both, is it MORE the choking part or the tired part? Â Latter, but you can't really blame him. Our bench for over half the year was comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 02:01 AM) Here's the $64,000 question: is the offense choking, tired because Robin has used the regulars too much this year, or some combination of both? And, if think it's both, is it MORE the choking part or the tired part? Â Combination of a lot of things it seems. Right now, it seems like everyone is way too tight. I also think that refusing to move Rios into the 3rd spot has hurt this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 08:01 PM) Here's the $64,000 question: is the offense choking, tired because Robin has used the regulars too much this year, or some combination of both? And, if think it's both, is it MORE the choking part or the tired part? Â It's because someone applied a bit of pressure to the team. Their back ends pucker and everything becomes swing to be a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 02:00 AM) Running into outs. Is Ventura reading the Ozzie Guillen approach to losing the division. Let Beckham concentrate on the AB and not forcing the situation. Â Beckham struck out in the Angels series when Alexei was running on a 2 strike pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 07:00 PM) Running into outs. Is Ventura reading the Ozzie Guillen approach to losing the division. Let Beckham concentrate on the AB and not forcing the situation. Â He's desperate to get a double (Beckham had 3 of them in 4 previous at-bats against McA) and tie the game up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 PICK IT WILSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wow, hell of a turn there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 08:02 PM) Latter, but you can't really blame him. Our bench for over half the year was comical. Â Oh I tend to agree with you on that, but they were still overused. That's more a GM issue than a manager issue. Edited September 25, 2012 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Time for Youk to tie this game with a home run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 They're dong fine offensively that means, they're just pressing at the plate. Nothing a pair of blowup dolls in the clubhouse wouldn't fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) It's because someone applied a bit of pressure to the team. Their back ends pucker and everything becomes swing to be a hero. Â Â But the Tigers have been 3 1/2 back to 1 1/2 games ahead (briefly) for nearly 4 1/2 months now. Â That's not the only reason. Â Part of it has to be the lack of rest for regulars like AJ for most of the first 4 months. Our weak bench is partially to blame. When you have AAAA lifers like Olmedo that play the way they do in key games, or Jose Lopez, what other options are there? Â And then you've had the erratic and inconsistent bullpen to deal with all season long....with all the rookies and the injury to Crain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 02:04 AM) Oh I tend to agree with you on that, but they were still overused. That's more a GM issue than a manager issue. Â Yep, never finding a legitimate back-up infielder at the deadline was a mistake. I do think Ventura will make some adjustments next year with regards to mixing up his lineups a little more with bench players instead of using Sunday lineups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 09:05 PM) They're dong fine offensively that means, they're just pressing at the plate. Nothing a pair of blowup dolls in the clubhouse wouldn't fix. Â I thought the Stache thing would actually make em all a little more loose in the clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 That was one of the quickest double plays I've ever seen. Gordon with an insane pivot throw, and Alexei coming across with all kinds of speed and throwing a piss rocket to 1st. Indians announcers were stunned they could turn that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 08:05 PM) They're dong fine offensively that means, they're just pressing at the plate. Nothing a pair of blowup dolls in the clubhouse wouldn't fix. Â of course i mean to say defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 McAllister's never pitched with this much velocity...his adrenaline will wear off and he'll tire in the next couple of innings. Â Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 24, 2012 -> 08:06 PM) Yep, never finding a legitimate back-up infielder at the deadline was a mistake. I do think Ventura will make some adjustments next year with regards to mixing up his lineups a little more with bench players instead of using Sunday lineups. Â Yeah. Hopefully he has a better bench to do that with (aka Kenny learns his lesson too). I don't want this to look like a defense of the lineup, because choking is definitely part of this. I just think fatigue definitely is too. Edited September 25, 2012 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noonskadoodle Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Dreaded.... 2nd time through. LETS GO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 DREADED LEADOFF WALK, GOING TO SCORE LIKE 50 RUNS NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 The "dreaded leadoff walk". Suppose the Sox can do something with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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