Everyone is good in Seattle...that's why extending Felix was ludicrous...

I...kinda agree with this.

They are also moving the fences in at the stadium to help offense. I think you can throw park factors out for now.

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Everyone is good in Seattle...that's why extending Felix was ludicrous...

 

Maybe extending him wasnt ludicrous, extending him for THAT much is probably the ludicrous part

Maybe extending him wasnt ludicrous, extending him for THAT much is probably the ludicrous part

I don't think they will go broke with the extension, and am sure they know its an over pay, but he is the face of a franchise that has really struggled lately. It's probably worth the extra money to keep him around rather than letting him walk or trading him, if you take those things into consideration.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by Dick Allen

I don't think they will go broke with the extension, and am sure they know its an over pay, but he is the face of a franchise that has really struggled lately. It's probably worth the extra money to keep him around rather than letting him walk or trading him, if you take those things into consideration.

 

Still, this sounds like what the Twins did with Mauer (except that they were good before). That has turned into an epic disaster. This isn't to say Mauer is ineffective (quite the opposite) or that the Twins won't be good (because they can get back there), but not having that contract on the books would make it a hell of a lot easier.

Still, this sounds like what the Twins did with Mauer (except that they were good before). That has turned into an epic disaster. This isn't to say Mauer is ineffective (quite the opposite) or that the Twins won't be good (because they can get back there), but not having that contract on the books would make it a hell of a lot easier.

In this case...it might well depend on their revenue projections. With the TV contracts coming up, it could be a helluva lot easier to afford a contract like this over the next 7 years than the last 7.

In this case...it might well depend on their revenue projections. With the TV contracts coming up, it could be a helluva lot easier to afford a contract like this over the next 7 years than the last 7.

With the national contract, every team is getting an extra 25 million a year starting in 2014.

With the national contract, every team is getting an extra 25 million a year starting in 2014.

A quick googling suggests that the Mariners have an out clause in their TV deal following the 2015 season. So, if they could put together a winner before then...they have a shot at some serious money there too.

Still, this sounds like what the Twins did with Mauer (except that they were good before). That has turned into an epic disaster. This isn't to say Mauer is ineffective (quite the opposite) or that the Twins won't be good (because they can get back there), but not having that contract on the books would make it a hell of a lot easier.

Well, if bringing in the fences does indeed negate the extreme pitchers' park Safeco has always been, then maybe it isn't as bad...although I still would have some concerns about the guy's arm...in the last few years of that deal, he's going to have a ton of mileage on him.

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Damn, Ozzie missed out by a year on Juan Pierre v 2.0.

Well, if bringing in the fences does indeed negate the extreme pitchers' park Safeco has always been, then maybe it isn't as bad...although I still would have some concerns about the guy's arm...in the last few years of that deal, he's going to have a ton of mileage on him.

 

His career ERA on the road is only 0.11 higher than at Safeco. Let's not act like Felix is solely a product of his home park. This ain't Clayton Richard we are talking about.

His career ERA on the road is only 0.11 higher than at Safeco. Let's not act like Felix is solely a product of his home park. This ain't Clayton Richard we are talking about.

It's not about Felix...the point I was making was that Safeco transforms average pitchers into very good ones. Considering that, an elite arm may not have nearly the value to them that it may have to other teams...so I think a good idea would have been to trade him for some young position players with good bats, because that is obviously their organizational weakness.

 

Essentially, if you are long on pitching, pitching doesn't have as much value as hitting has, which they are short on.

 

 

Damn, Ozzie missed out by a year on Juan Pierre v 2.0.

 

And Juan Pierre v 1.0

It's not about Felix...the point I was making was that Safeco transforms average pitchers into very good ones. Considering that, an elite arm may not have nearly the value to them that it may have to other teams...so I think a good idea would have been to trade him for some young position players with good bats, because that is obviously their organizational weakness.

 

Essentially, if you are long on pitching, pitching doesn't have as much value as hitting has, which they are short on.

 

I see your point. In that park, the gap between Felix and other starters is lowered, so it makes less sense to pay him so much. Although that only accounts for half your games.

 

What's funny is that the Mariners were 8th in MLB in runs scored on the road last year. So either their offense was much better than we thought, or leaving Safeco gave them a breakout effect, like the opposite of what happens to the Rockies on the road.

Edited February 8, 201313 yr by LittleHurt05

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Indians sign Jason Giambi and Daisuke Matsuzaka. Good times.

Indians sign Jason Giambi and Daisuke Matsuzaka. Good times.

 

I'm not worried about Giambi having that much of an impact, but Dice K? That could be trouble for the Sox.

 

At least the Indians are TRYING to do something.

I'm not worried about Giambi having that much of an impact, but Dice K? That could be trouble for the Sox.

 

At least the Indians are TRYING to do something.

Seriously?

 

That 8.28 ERA he put up last year scares?

Seriously?

 

That 8.28 ERA he put up last year scares?

 

Of course not, that was coming off of TJ surgery. His performance in the years before he was injured scares me. Maybe it's just taking him a little longer to fully recover.

Of course not, that was coming off of TJ surgery. His performance in the years before he was injured scares me. Maybe it's just taking him a little longer to fully recover.

 

He has pitched in the majors in 6 different seasons. Only once did he have an ERA of lower than 4.40. What performance scares you? His one good year was in 2008.

He'd scare me more if he was a lefty. Cause all he throws is soft junk, but as a righty I think the Sox could handle him.