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2013-2014 NFL Thread

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:08 PM)
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#Bears QB Jay Cutler’s contract: 7 years, $126 million with $54M guaranteed.

 

I'm fine with 3 years guaranteed. I wonder what this means in terms of free agency.

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That is way too much money for Jay Cutler.

@AlokPattaniESPN "Jay Cutler; 66.5 QBR in '13, 4 other 30-year old QBs w 60-70 QBR have declined sharply within 2 years"

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:27 PM)
@AlokPattaniESPN "Jay Cutler; 66.5 QBR in '13, 4 other 30-year old QBs w 60-70 QBR have declined sharply within 2 years"

1) Who were they?

2) If four have, how many haven't?

3) What about 29 year olds or 31 year olds?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 02:28 PM)
1) Who were they?

2) If four have, how many haven't?

3) What about 29 year olds or 31 year olds?

 

Yeah, seemed like an odd statistic

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:31 PM)
Yeah, seemed like an odd statistic

ESPN is great for arbitrary statistics that make it seem like something important/noteworthy has happened

Its a massive overpay.

 

They must have had some sort of handshake agreement prior to McCown showing that it wasnt the QB it was the system.

 

Anyway, I wouldnt mind getting Connor Shaw (QB) as an undrafted rookie or as a 7th rounder. I know I saw probably his best game ever, but he didnt make mistakes and could be a solid back up.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:08 PM)
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#Bears QB Jay Cutler’s contract: 7 years, $126 million with $54M guaranteed.

 

So in reality it's more like 3 years, $54 million. If he is still playing well, you can keep him around for $18 million a year.

Cutler has turned the ball over 137 times in 104 games. That is a ton.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 12:51 PM)
Oh my goodness, I am so embarrassed to have missed some discussion on a message board! I should have spent more time during the holidays on your take on it!

I didn't post anything about it.

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:41 PM)

 

Thanks. Are those all of the QB's who have had a QBR between 60 and 70 at the age of 30 since 2006? The sample size isn't very large, and there could be other contributing factors for them.

 

edit: so at 31 Manning had a Pro Bowl season before having a crap season this year. Roethlisburger's QBR has been declining pretty steadily since 2009. Vick cratered last year at 32 but recovered somewhat this year at the age of 33.

 

edit2: Aaron Rodgers is 30 and posted a similar QBR this year. Should the Packers be worried about him?

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:38 PM)
Cutler has turned the ball over 137 times in 104 games. That is a ton.

 

That's almost a worse turnover rate than Brett Favre! Almost.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:48 PM)
That's almost a worse turnover rate than Brett Favre! Almost.

 

What is the point of this post?

 

 

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:49 PM)
What is the point of this post?

 

It's a packer fan and bear fan ribbing each other.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:49 PM)
What is the point of this post?

 

Huh? What's the point of any post? I compared Cutler's turnover rate to Favre's and thought it was interesting. Cutler averages 1.317 TOs per game, Favre was at 1.354 per game over his entire career.

If only Cutler could find the end zone like Favre...

 

Let's be real though, Favre put up some absolute duds in several seasons. His worst seasons were sub-Cutler, but his best seasons got you rings.

Cutler and Stafford remind me of Favre sometimes. The good and the bad.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 01:55 PM)
Huh? What's the point of any post? I compared Cutler's turnover rate to Favre's and thought it was interesting. Cutler averages 1.317 TOs per game, Favre was at 1.354 per game over his entire career.

 

Generally the point is to make statements that are thought provoking.

 

I just wanted to make sure you were doing nonsense Packer baiting and not actually suggesting that Cutler is equivalent to Farve.

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Jay Cutler - 7 yrs, 126M, 54M guaranteed

Tony Romo - 6 yrs, $108M, $55M guaranteed

Matt Ryan - 5 yrs, $104M , $59M guaranteed

Matthew Stafford - 5 yrs, $76.5M , $43M guaranteed

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Samuel BlackwellThe Halas Holla...We Bleed Navy and Orange

Jay Cutler in 5 years with Bears: 101 TDs, 75 INTs, 83.1 rating. Bears QBs in 5 years before Cutler trade: 82 TDs, 88 INTs, 69.7 rating.

Wow. Cutler and Rodgers both got 54 million guaranteed.

 

 

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 02:18 PM)
Samuel BlackwellThe Halas Holla...We Bleed Navy and Orange

Jay Cutler in 5 years with Bears: 101 TDs, 75 INTs, 83.1 rating. Bears QBs in 5 years before Cutler trade: 82 TDs, 88 INTs, 69.7 rating.

 

Yeah, and this is why a lot of people defended Cutler. Life without Cutler sucked a lot.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 02:11 PM)
Generally the point is to make statements that are thought provoking.

 

I just wanted to make sure you were doing nonsense Packer baiting and not actually suggesting that Cutler is equivalent to Farve.

 

It was only like 10-20% Bears/Packers baiting, but that's part of the point of message boards anyway.

 

Plently of people have compared Cutler to Favre because of the "gunslinging" and when they both think they see a window, they will force the ball in there, interception be damned. Thought it would be interesting to see if Favre also had a ton of turnovers per game. Obviously his success puts him in a different stratosphere than Cutler.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 2, 2014 -> 03:18 PM)
Samuel BlackwellThe Halas Holla...We Bleed Navy and Orange

Jay Cutler in 5 years with Bears: 101 TDs, 75 INTs, 83.1 rating. Bears QBs in 5 years before Cutler trade: 82 TDs, 88 INTs, 69.7 rating.

The median QB Rating over the last 3 years (15 teams worse, 15 better): 82.5.

 

83.1 would be good for the #14 team quarterback rating over the past 3 years.

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