Nice to know the 83 Sox started 16-24 and ended up winning 99.

 

Or as Hawk likes to say, 14-26.

 

The 83 team went 50-16 the final 66 games. This team has no chance of doing that.

Starting to think the reverse side of Ventura's "calm/poised" demeanor being a positive is that it's almost a sort of malaise that can affect the entire organization.

 

Obviously, baseball isn't football or soccer where you need a more motivational, fiery type of leader...you can't get away with that in a 162 game season.

 

BUT, it's like there is a stupor that has set in. We blamed Ozzie for leaving Dunn in there game after game after game, but the same thing's happening with Ventura, too. And it's not like Hahn has given him multiple options as a replacement. It's almost like having the likes of Wise/Tekotte/Danks all on the roster at the same time takes the pressure off Ventura for NOT benching him a game or two.

 

When there was the idea of Lillibridge or Viciedo coming up in 2011, at least there were legitimate/credible options to debate.

 

Now it's just...hard to get worked up or even care.

Or as Hawk likes to say, 14-26.

 

The 83 team went 50-16 the final 66 games. This team has no chance of doing that.

 

 

Especially when all of our games against the Tigers are back-loaded on the schedule this season.

 

If Sox fans were going to look for a reason to believe, it would have to be heading into July with a 4-5-6 game lead in the division and at least the hope to somehow weather the Tigers' offensive and starting pitching onslaught in the head-to-head match-ups.

We need to stop walking Hicks. But otherwise, great first 3 innings for Floyd

Or as Hawk likes to say, 14-26.

 

The 83 team went 50-16 the final 66 games. This team has no chance of doing that.

I'm sure they said that about the 83 team too early in the season. That team wasnt exactly filled with HOF's. Maybe Seaver ?

Or as Hawk likes to say, 14-26.

 

The 83 team went 50-16 the final 66 games. This team has no chance of doing that.

 

 

Harrelson's already turning to that stat to try to inspire himself to invest in this season? I would have thought he'd wait until at least May for that "tried and true" nugget of wisdom which only is applicable about once every 30 years.

I'm sure they said that about the 83 team too early in the season. That team wasnt exactly filled with HOF's. Maybe Seaver ?

Seaver was not on 83 team. Seaver came to Sox in 84.

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Mike Squires in the booth.

 

Would take him over Dunn, and he wasn't even a good hitter, lol.

 

Heck, since it's 1983 all over again with the uniforms, I'd much prefer to watch Rudy Law or Ron LeFlore than any outfielder not named Rios.

 

Squires saying how LaRussa made a concerted effort to take that team out to eat together (he paid back in those days)...and that the 83 team was always together, always going to parties. That kind of thing just doesn't happen anymore.

Seaver was not on 83 team.

 

Carlton Fisk...obviously.

 

Baines was close.

Wise DP

Diamond didnt throw a single strike to Wise.

This is making 2007/09/11 look like OktoberFest compared to this....whatever it is.

Seaver was not on 83 team. Seaver came to Sox in 84.

Thanks I remember him wearing the uni so knew it was close.

Mauer's retired twice!

 

That means he'll get a hit next time.

DeAza with another misread....broke back initially on contact, and then it was too late to readjust.

 

Sigh.

I am stunned by how awful the Sox lineup is today. Dunn has no business being in there, and the current bench shows a lack of preparation by the front office.

Gavin flashing leather today.

Gavin looking decent. Good curve today

De aza swings at everything.....

Now willingham does a de aza

For the love of everything holy, get him in.

Nice ADA.

I am stunned by how awful the Sox lineup is today. Dunn has no business being in there, and the current bench shows a lack of preparation by the front office.

 

 

The last two years of bench players have to be the worst that I can remember since becoming a White Sox fan.

 

It was one of the biggest reasons the team wore down during the stretch last year...as much as we chided Ozzie for his Sunday line-ups, but we obviously didn't have credible replacements for Youk, DeAza, Ramirez (Olmedo still haunts my nightmares) and the nagging injuries just caught up with them, as well as the overuse of Sale/Quintana/Peavy.

 

This is what results when you have all these players like Thornton who are paid like pseudo-closers and not set-up guys. And bench players disguised as starters in Keppinger.

 

Obviously we have Dunn and Danks now soaking up payroll with the big contracts that look bad, but it's always those guys like Linebrink or Teahen that end up creating payroll problems in the final analysis.

I am stunned by how awful the Sox lineup is today. Dunn has no business being in there, and the current bench shows a lack of preparation by the front office.

© fathom, June 20, 2004.

Woo, a point!