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2013-14 off season player movement thread

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CC Sabathia looks like he lost like 50 pounds this offseason, wow.

 

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I....can't use his nickname any more....

He was losing weight during the season last year. The Yankees suspected it may have contributed to his bad season. We will see, but he looks like a different guy.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 21, 2014 -> 01:25 AM)
CC Sabathia looks like he lost like 50 pounds this offseason, wow.

 

cc-sabathia-skinny.jpg

 

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 02:44 PM)
Sabathia actually looks really thin right there.

 

HEY I WAS RIGHT

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Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 5m

 

#Phillies have, indeed, reached agreement on a minor league deal with Bobby Abreu, source confirms.

I....can't use his nickname any more....

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What is he now? Captain Tofuburger? Captain Salad?

 

It's not fun anymore. :angry:

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 12:22 PM)
Sounds like Garza to the Brewers for 4 years $52 million. Balfour is also signing with the Rays.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

That actually sounds like a pretty good deal for the Brew Crew IMO.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:31 PM)
That actually sounds like a pretty good deal for the Brew Crew IMO.

Do they legitimately think they have a chance to be competitive in the NL Central next year with the Pirates, Cardinals, and Reds all in that division? I mean they get Braun back, but do they have something else useful coming down the pipeline this year?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:21 PM)
Do they legitimately think they have a chance to be competitive in the NL Central next year with the Pirates, Cardinals, and Reds all in that division? I mean they get Braun back, but do they have something else useful coming down the pipeline this year?

 

If Mark Reynolds and Lyle Overbay can combine for 1 WAR, they will have added 5 wins to that team. They were the only team in baseball last year with a worse situation at 1B than the Sox.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 02:27 PM)
If Mark Reynolds and Lyle Overbay can combine for 1 WAR, they will have added 5 wins to that team. They were the only team in baseball last year with a worse situation at 1B than the Sox.

That was a 74 win team though. Add in another 2 for Braun back for the full year perhaps and they still need something big to happen to be a competitive team? Do they have that? Serious Q I don't know their roster?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:29 PM)
That was a 74 win team though. Add in another 2 for Braun back for the full year perhaps and they still need something big to happen to be a competitive team? Do they have that? Serious Q I don't know their roster?

 

That's all context neutral though. They also blew like a million saves too,

 

Honestly, with a bit of luck, I think most teams are 85-90 win teams.

 

Just for demonstration's sake though, 74 + 5 is 79, plus Braun's additional 2, plus a 4 WAR season from Garza and you're looking at an 85 context-neutral win team.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 20, 2014 -> 11:25 PM)
CC Sabathia looks like he lost like 50 pounds this offseason, wow.

 

cc-sabathia-skinny.jpg

In a very nice Tom Ford tuxedo...very impressive, CC.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 01:52 PM)
That's all context neutral though. They also blew like a million saves too,

 

Honestly, with a bit of luck, I think most teams are 85-90 win teams.

 

Just for demonstration's sake though, 74 + 5 is 79, plus Braun's additional 2, plus a 4 WAR season from Garza and you're looking at an 85 context-neutral win team.

 

The last couple years I think the Brewers have had some horrendous bullpen work with just some crushing blown saves. Shore that up, their rotation is Gallardo, Garza, Lohse, Wily Peralta, and Marco Estrada. Nothing over powering, but if the last two guys keep improving, contending for the wild card isn't out of the question.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 04:37 PM)
The last couple years I think the Brewers have had some horrendous bullpen work with just some crushing blown saves. Shore that up, their rotation is Gallardo, Garza, Lohse, Wily Peralta, and Marco Estrada. Nothing over powering, but if the last two guys keep improving, contending for the wild card isn't out of the question.

Here's some appropriate skepticism as well. Their SP were 28th in MLB last year in WAR. Garza helps that, but even to be competitive, they're counting on big improvements from other guys in their rotation as well as guys like Gomez not regressing in the least and other unnamed guys contributing to their lineup more.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 06:47 PM)
Here's some appropriate skepticism as well. Their SP were 28th in MLB last year in WAR. Garza helps that, but even to be competitive, they're counting on big improvements from other guys in their rotation as well as guys like Gomez not regressing in the least and other unnamed guys contributing to their lineup more.

Garza deal is not done yet according to reports.

 

 

The Milwaukee Brewers have reported that contract negotiations with Matt Garza are "ongoing" and there is "no deal yet."

 

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reported earlier Thursday that the Brewers agreed to sign Garza to a four-year, $52 million contract. It's highly unusual for a team to comment on a deal before it's finalized, but that's exactly what the Brewers did via their Twitter account. Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel and MLB.com's Adam McCalvy are hearing the holdup isn't due to a medical issue, so it sounds like we should have a resolution soon.

 

Per Rotoworld

Edited by Soxfest

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 03:28 PM)
In a very nice Tom Ford tuxedo...very impressive, CC.

 

How the hell could you pick that out? The bowtie?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 23, 2014 -> 10:24 PM)
How the hell could you pick that out? The bowtie?

I bought one for my wedding...looked at a lot of them over the last 6 months :)

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Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 12m

 

Source confirms: Garza is four years, $50M with #Brewers plus $1M per season in incentives.

 

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 18m

 

#Brewers make it official: Four-year deal for Garza plus vesting option for fifth year.

That seems like an incredibly reasonable deal for Garza.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 11:01 AM)
That seems like an incredibly reasonable deal for Garza.

It seems fair, I just don't know why it's the Brewers doing it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2014 -> 11:30 AM)
It seems fair, I just don't know why it's the Brewers doing it.

 

It makes sense to me, but I'm not sure I can fully explain why. First, I don't think they are in a position to go on an all-out Astros type rebuild. They built a lot of strides with their fanbase with their postseason trips, and while they lost some with the recent slump and Braun stuff, I think they need to keep them interested in the team. They most likely won't win the Central, but they aren't devoid of talent, and if some things go their way, maybe they compete for the 2nd wild card and stay in the hunt, which matters for a team like Milwaukee. Plus, the length/value won't ever be crippling. While Garza is an injury risk, he also seems consistent enough that he won't suddenly have a 5.00 ERA like Ubaldo might.

This ESPN compilation of total spending over the last 5 years and wins to show for it is worth looking through. 16-30 and 1-15.

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Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 2h

 

 

Garza has complex 5th-yr '18 option: It's #Brewers opt at $5M, but becomes $1M if he spends 130 DL days in 183-pd for various injuries (con)

But Garza can vest at $13M if 1. 110g during contract plus 2. not on DL at end of '17 regular season plus 3. 115 ip in '17. #Brewers

 

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Nolan was Michael Jordan to me as a kid. I really hope he gets back into the game.

 

Brian McTaggart ‏@brianmctaggart 55m

 

Nolan Ryan met with Jim Crane and Reid Ryan this morning at Minute Maid Park.

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