We can also assume that he was juicing the entire time and figured something out at the plate too. That's why positive tests are such a damning indictment on a player. At what point(s) were they clean and not clean?

Or maybe they know it was just a flukey paper trail that got him caught, and he should be able to cheat to the level he always has without getting caught again, unless he's really, really dumb about it.

 

dumb like have his friends and agent create a fake vitamin supplier?

Twins just signed Nolasco. Likely completely irrelevant to our season on many levels.

Twins just signed Nolasco. Likely completely irrelevant to our season on many levels.

 

MLBTR says they are close to a "major FA signing", but they have no said it's Nolasco. They don't believe it is Salty.

Sweet, let them have him. Hopefully it's like a $75 million deal. Dude's an enigma on the wrong side of 30.

4/$49, $12 a year, $1 mill buyout with $13 mill option. Actually a really nice deal for the Twins.

4/$49, $12 a year, $1 mill buyout with $13 mill option. Actually a really nice deal for the Twins.

Considering Carlos Silva got this same exact deal 5 years ago, I would definitely say it's a nice deal for the Twins in this free agent environment.

Considering Carlos Silva got this same exact deal 5 years ago, I would definitely say it's a nice deal for the Twins in this free agent environment.

 

Let's hope that the Twins get the same return on investment that Silva provided

So Quintana's contract situation would be what exactly right now?

 

Well considering what Chris Sale is at...I assume under that.

So Quintana's contract situation would be what exactly right now?

 

I actually meant for major league players.

I actually meant for major league players.

 

 

I actually would not be surprised to see Quintana locked up for a sweetheart club deal similar to what Floyd signed in the past. Something that buys out his arb years and maybe adds options to the end.

I actually meant for major league players.

 

So players only get punished financially if they juice in the majors, but not if they cheat in the minors?

So players only get punished financially if they juice in the majors, but not if they cheat in the minors?

 

Sure.

Floyd's contract was 4/15.5 and he signed it just prior to the 2009 season. If Quintana signed something like 4/25 or 5/31 I'd be pretty happy in this market.

Quintana has only 1 full year of MLB service time, he has 2 more years pre-arbitration. It makes little sense to sign a deal that doesn't buy out one of those post-arb years so with options you'd be talking about 7+ years. I'd be willing to do so as well, but I don't think the structure works out the way you wrote. At the very least, 4/$25 doesn't make sense as that only covers his first 2 arb years and he's unlikely to make $25 million before then even if he goes to arbitration and wins.

Marc Topkin ‏@TBTimes_Rays 1h

 

From Sun: Interesting names in play (Morneau, Moreland, Loney) as #Rays seek 1B http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/ra...st-base/2154895 …,

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 3m

 

Source: #Mariners have two-year deal with Bloomquist for between $5M-$6M. Pending physical. @JonHeymanCBS and @nickpiecoro had first.

Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report 15m

 

#Royals non-tender 2B Chris Getz; he's now a free agent.

Bob Dutton ‏@Royals_Report 15m

 

#Royals non-tender 2B Chris Getz; he's now a free agent.

 

I think the St. Paul Saints just found their 2B.

What was Getz' problem in KC? Did he just never stay healthy?

 

2009, and 2011 he played over 100 games and had numbers better than Beckham. (other than 2009 anyway)

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=2B

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What was Getz' problem in KC? Did he just never stay healthy?

 

2009, and 2011 he played over 100 games and had numbers better than Beckham. (other than 2009 anyway)

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=2B

He's never been that good and he hasn't played like a starting MLB 2nd baseman. He's at the point where his salary would start going up from arbitration and there's no reason to pay him more money to be a below-average 2b. You can call up 27 year olds from the minors to do that for minimum salary.

 

That he's had better numbers than Beckham is an indictment of Beckham more than anything, it shows how bad Beckham has been.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m

 

Confirming @Ken_Rosenthal and @JonHeymanCBS reports of Scott Kazmir agreeing to two-year deal with A's. Money will be more than $16M total.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m

 

Confirming @Ken_Rosenthal and @JonHeymanCBS reports of Scott Kazmir agreeing to two-year deal with A's. Money will be more than $16M total.

That is insane.

Kazmir is an underrated good story of 2013.

MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 55m

 

Arencibia Will Be Traded Or Non-Tendered http://dlvr.it/4R1zwy #mlb

 

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 49m

 

Sources: #Orioles trying hard to trade Jim Johnson, #Dodgers in mix. Johnson projected to earn more than $10M in arbitration.

 

Jorge Castillo ‏@jorgeccastillo 47m

 

The #Mets have non-tendered Omar Quintanilla: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2013/12/m...ne_looming.html …

 

Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 43m

 

Scott Atchison also has been non-tendered, I'm told. #mets

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m

 

Confirming @Ken_Rosenthal and @JonHeymanCBS reports of Scott Kazmir agreeing to two-year deal with A's. Money will be more than $16M total.

 

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm 1m

 

Kazmir agrees to 2yrs $22m deal with A's #Confirmed