Is it possible that we have a Payne Stewart sort of situation but on a greater scale?

 

I thought about that as well, but even if, where's the plane is the mystery.

Is it possible that we have a Payne Stewart sort of situation but on a greater scale?

 

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/post/792146078...ion-to-the-ntsb

 

Not sure if anything is being ruled out at this time.

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/post/792146078...ion-to-the-ntsb

 

Not sure if anything is being ruled out at this time.

Seems odd (and scary if true) that a plane wouldn't have a sensor for low oxygen levels that would prevent a scenario like that. If that truly was the case, then there should be some sort of indicator well before oxygen levels reached a life threatening state.

So when they call the passengers cell phones, they ring but nobody picks up. Wtf.

The last communication received from a Malaysia Airlines plane suggests everything was normal on board minutes before it went missing over the South China Sea, Malaysian authorities say.

 

Flight MH370 replied "All right, roger that" to a radio message from Malaysian air control, authorities said.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26541057

Is it possible that we have a Payne Stewart sort of situation but on a greater scale?

 

Well, we now have this report from the Malaysian military that the plane made a left turn of about 130 degrees right after communication was cut off. If there had been a massive depressurization, the plane would not have turned but kept going.

 

I've heard two plausible theories about why the plane cut off contact and then turned.

 

(1) Either by their own choice or by force, the pilots deliberately cut off communications and then re-routed the flight

 

(2) There was a massive electrical failure that cut off all systems except the emergency navigation backup. The pilots re-routed the flight to try to return to Malaysia to land but did not succeed.

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/post/792146078...ion-to-the-ntsb

 

Not sure if anything is being ruled out at this time.

 

Just the thought of that happening is crazy. A 777 just flying along normally without a single conscious person on board.

Saw on Twitter there was a report that an oil rig worker saw the plane go down.

 

Here's the coordinates of the rig (arrow, not the A marker)

 

https://www.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=8.37...sic&dg=ntvo

Edited March 12, 201412 yr by StrangeSox

BBC has confirmed the contact by the oil rig worker with Vietnamese air traffic control

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26541057

 

Edited March 12, 201412 yr by StrangeSox

Well, we now have this report from the Malaysian military that the plane made a left turn of about 130 degrees right after communication was cut off. If there had been a massive depressurization, the plane would not have turned but kept going.

 

I've heard two plausible theories about why the plane cut off contact and then turned.

 

(1) Either by their own choice or by force, the pilots deliberately cut off communications and then re-routed the flight

 

(2) There was a massive electrical failure that cut off all systems except the emergency navigation backup. The pilots re-routed the flight to try to return to Malaysia to land but did not succeed.

#2 seems the most plausible to me.

 

BBC has confirmed the contact by the oil rig worker with Vietnamese air traffic control

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26541057

 

So, that would make the Malaysian Military wrong.

 

I don't think the Malaysian military ever officially confirmed that they made radar contact (or at least thought they did), but they did expand the search to the other side of the peninsula.

 

Here's the coordinates of the rig (arrow, not the A marker)

 

https://www.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=8.37...sic&dg=ntvo

 

Yes, and a heading of 265-275 would be NNW.

Yes, and a heading of 265-275 would be NNW.

Actually, 270 is precisely west.

 

Actually, 270 is precisely west.

 

Yes. I don't know why, for a brief moment, that I thought there were 300 degrees in a circle when there are 360.

They might have a satellite pic of the downed plane.

 

http://wgntv.com/2014/03/12/satellite-look...ted-crash-area/

U.S. investigators now suspect that the flight flew on for more than four hours after it was lost from radar

 

 

 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...RightTopStories

U.S. investigators now suspect that the flight flew on for more than four hours after it was lost from radar

 

 

 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...RightTopStories

 

Thought I heard this was debunked but could be wrong.

Thought I heard this was debunked but could be wrong.

 

I think Malysian gov is the one trying to deny that.

Haven't seen this noted here:

 

When the transponder was turned off, it removed the aircraft from civilian radar. That was over the Gulf of Thailand an hour or so into the flight. It did NOT remove the plane from military radar.

 

The plane then made an approximate 180 and the Malaysian Air Force tracked the plane as it headed back towards the Malay Peninsula. It crossed the peninsula and, according to the MAF, disappeared near a Malaysian island in the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. I have NO idea how it would remove itself from military radar without crashing. But since it disappeared from radar near the shore in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes, I am bewildered as to how no one saw it crash. I also don't know the range of the MAF's radars, although I don't think it would expire so close to the Malaysian coastline.

 

The latest news is that the Rolls-Royce engines sent automated messages to the company's headquarters as late as four hours after the plane supposedly disappeared. With that flying time, the plane could have gone as far as Pakistan or Australia (the engine messages do not include geographic info, only mechanical). Also, this is what the American investigators on the ground say. The Malaysian authorities deny this, saying RR says the engine messages stopped at the same time as they (the Malaysians) say they lost military contact. I'd like to hear directly from Rolls-Royce itself in regards to these messages.

 

The Iranians using stolen passports made me think terrorism was the cause when I first heard it, but no matter how weird that is, I can't think of any motivation for Iranian agents would want to blow up a Malaysian plane full of Chinese people.

 

I somewhat suspect that the explanation will end up being completely mundane. This info given here will end up having been premature, and it will be revealed that the plane suffered severe pilot errors and flew into the Gulf of Thailand when they initially said it did. And per the aforementioned principle of "aviate, navigate, communicate" and the precedent of Air France 449, they didn't have the time or foresight to communicate their dire situation to the ground. And this whole mystery will just be an ordinary, albeit tragic, air disaster.

 

Then, other times, I think someday it will be divinely revealed that they all flew into an alternate dimension.

re: the Malaysian military picking up the plane on radar:

 

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airli...ng-plane-again/

 

In addition, U.S. radar experts have looked at the Malaysian military radar track, which seemed to show the jet flying hundreds of miles off course west of its flight path, and back across the Malaysian peninsula. Sources say the radar appears to be legitimate and there is a strong reason to suspect that the unidentified blips - seen on military controller screens - are images of Malaysian Airlines 370.

 

the NTSB has validated the Malaysian military radar records and has determined that it is necessary to expand the search to the western Strait of Malacca.

 

I'm not seeing anything today about the oil rig worker who claims to have seen a plane on fire in the sky.

New report from Reuters that the plane was deliberately flown towards the Andaman Islands off India before it vanished.

If this plane is intact, hidden in some jungle somewhere, then this is the greatest heist in the history of the world.

If this plane is intact, hidden in some jungle somewhere, then this is the greatest heist in the history of the world.

 

If this was a heist, then there was something valuable on that plane besides the people.

 

No matter what, this is some crazy stuff. Poof, gone.