Abreu is relatively young, costs no talent, is controlled for the long term, and has sky high upside by all accounts. You are not paying a premium for past performance (see: non-Latin American free agents). He would be considered part of the core, not a peripheral/secondary piece. Same goes for Tanaka, within reason. The Yankees, of course, are rarely reasonable.

 

This criterea for spending money is too narrow when you have a farm system as empty as the Sox have. They're going to lose whatever advantage the Abreu and Sale contracts give them if they wait for this system to fill a hole or two before spending money. Why are posters so against spending money?

And he is clearly only signed to a one year deal, and not a six.

Wait, so you agree with Marty that after signing him the White Sox were ready to field a competitive team this year?

This criterea for spending money is too narrow when you have a farm system as empty as the Sox have. They're going to lose whatever advantage the Abreu and Sale contracts give them if they wait for this system to fill a hole or two before spending money. Why are posters so against spending money?

We're not.

 

We're against spending it at a stupid time.

We're not.

 

We're against spending it at a stupid time.

 

1-year contracts must be the new market inefficiency the Sox will exploit when the time to spend isn't stupid.

1-year contracts must be the new market inefficiency the Sox will exploit when the time to spend isn't stupid.

Why would the White Sox sign people to 1 year contracts to build a competitive team? You sign people to limited contracts when you have a team filled with rookies so that you can trade guys and avoid strangling yourself in the future. You turn that around and risk the longer-term deals when you have a team that could be competitive if it filled its last 1-2 holes.

Wait, so you agree with Marty that after signing him the White Sox were ready to field a competitive team this year?

 

Not for a second. The contract made sense because it was a six year deal, and not a 1/2/3 year deal.

Not for a second. The contract made sense because it was a six year deal, and not a 1/2/3 year deal.

Then why did you comment to me when I was pointing out basically the same point?

Then why did you comment to me when I was pointing out basically the same point?

 

[agreeing with your point]

This criterea for spending money is too narrow when you have a farm system as empty as the Sox have. They're going to lose whatever advantage the Abreu and Sale contracts give them if they wait for this system to fill a hole or two before spending money. Why are posters so against spending money?

You're right, but we need to spend that money on impact players and not marginal free agents. The guys you wanted to add would have made the team better, but not that much better and would have eaten our financial flexibility going forward.

You're right, but we need to spend that money on impact players and not marginal free agents. The guys you wanted to add would have made the team better, but not that much better and would have eaten our financial flexibility going forward.

 

Impact free-agents are out of the Sox price range so I don't know what we are saving the financial flexibility for and there's not a lot of help coming from the farm anytime soon.

Impact free-agents are out of the Sox price range so I don't know what we are saving the financial flexibility for and there's not a lot of help coming from the farm anytime soon.

If you don't spend needless dollars now, this is untrue.

If you don't spend needless dollars now, this is untrue.

 

Last impact free agent the Sox signed was Albert Belle.

Why would the White Sox sign people to 1 year contracts to build a competitive team? You sign people to limited contracts when you have a team filled with rookies so that you can trade guys and avoid strangling yourself in the future. You turn that around and risk the longer-term deals when you have a team that could be competitive if it filled its last 1-2 holes.

 

The stars have to align perfectly (farm system be producing players) for a team to add the final piece or two via free agency.

Edited April 20, 201411 yr by Marty34

Last impact free agent the Sox signed was Jose Abreu.

 

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Last impact free agent the Sox signed was Albert Belle.

Jermaine Dye never did a thing for this team.

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That was so completely obvious to anyone but some quality trolling work.

I hope you're right about Abreu SS2K.

I hope you're right about Abreu SS2K.

 

Quitting on the guy already? That has to be a new record.

Quitting on the guy already? That has to be a new record.

Well to be fair, he is cuban.

Well to be fair, he is cuban.

 

Well done.

Hanson didn't have a very good first start at AAA. 3BBs 4 runs.

Jermaine Dye never did a thing for this team.

 

Neither did AJ Pierzynski.

Hanson didn't have a very good first start at AAA. 3BBs 4 runs.

 

I want to know how he looks after 3 or 4 starts.

No, it was not a smart move, quite the contrary. Expecting him to fail, as you put it, and then watching him fail, is not a smart move. Financially, it was certainly not a smart move. Colossal waste of money. It doesn't do anyone, teammates included, fans included, any good to watch that kind of performance. It makes someone look to be a very poor judge of talent. Not a smart move. Now if he had a non guaranteed conmtract, like Boggs, it might not have looked so bad. The only smart move was by Paulino's agent. It would be smarter to have an 11 man staff, since the FO long ago made the decision to carry 3 FB/DH.

 

If there's any bad move that is even worse, it's Scott Downs.

 

Why pay a LHR that much money when it seem to be much more important to replace Reed than Matt Thornton in the overall scheme of things.

 

Of course, they believed that Jones/Lindstrom/Webb all the ability to be closers (one would assume), but it was still a strange allocation of resources. They could simply have used Purcey, or Veal, or just kept throwing things at the wall until one of them stuck.

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 4m

 

Felipe Paulino said he could head out on a rehab assignment this weekend. #WhiteSox