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Isn't that a sarcastic/joke-thing? I didn't take it as a serious insult

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 08:34 PM)
Isn't that a sarcastic/joke-thing? I didn't take it as a serious insult

 

There's zero doubt in my mind it was a full on joke at an old friend.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 08:43 PM)
There's zero doubt in my mind it was a full on joke at an old friend.

Pretty obvious really. Steeger and Toews are great friends.

Hawks sign Stan Bowman to 3-year extension

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:12 AM)
Hawks sign Stan Bowman to 3-year extension

 

certain people wonder what he has done to deserve the extension ;)

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:15 AM)
certain people wonder what he has done to deserve the extension ;)

Not so much that. They have basically signed Stan Bowman to the time where it will be up to him to rebuild this when all his players are past his prime. Seems only appropriate he ride this out.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 08:12 AM)
Hawks sign Stan Bowman to 3-year extension

 

First GM to win three cups in the salary cap era of the NHL.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 09:43 AM)
Not so much that. They have basically signed Stan Bowman to the time where it will be up to him to rebuild this when all his players are past his prime. Seems only appropriate he ride this out.

 

That wasn't directed at you fwiw :D

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Kris Versteeg casually mentions the #Blackhawks have "five" future Hall of Famers. He adds Seabrook to Hossa, Keith, Toews and Kane.

 

Nice praise for Seabrook from Steeger.

Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 2h2 hours ago

 

#Blackhawks signed through:

Q: 2020

Crawford: 2020

Bowman: 2021

Hossa: 2021

Anisimov: 2021

Keith: 2023

Toews: 2023

Kane: 2023

Seabrook: 2024

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 02:22 PM)
Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 2h2 hours ago

 

#Blackhawks signed through:

Q: 2020

Crawford: 2020

Bowman: 2021

Hossa: 2021

Anisimov: 2021

Keith: 2023

Toews: 2023

Kane: 2023

Seabrook: 2024

In 2023, I'm guessing at least two of Hossa, Keith, and Seabrook will be on LTIR. The recapture on those guys is awful.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 02:53 PM)
In 2023, I'm guessing at least two of Hossa, Keith, and Seabrook will be on LTIR. The recapture on those guys is awful.

 

Keith? Dude is a fitness freak of nature and has arguably the best contract in the NHL. I can see him playing at an elite level well into his contract. Not saying he'll be winning a Norris when he's 40 like Lidström, but he'll still be very good.

Players age much more gracefully in hockey as compared to any other sport and the physicality of hockey seems to have gone down over time.

 

 

 

 

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 04:34 PM)
Keith? Dude is a fitness freak of nature and has arguably the best contract in the NHL. I can see him playing at an elite level well into his contract. Not saying he'll be winning a Norris when he's 40 like Lidström, but he'll still be very good.

Hossa almost 100% will finish his career on LTIR.

 

It's not a matter of good, it's a matter of "These players cannot retire less the Blackhawks get killed on recapture"

QUOTE (Tony @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 05:09 PM)
The Seabrook deal I can understand Hawk fans getting semi-upset about, but while the Hawks were trying to circumvent the cap system, I give credit to a front office for trying to get creative. Once the NHL changed the rule, AFTER the Keith and Hossa contracts have been signed, changed things. Those deals, certainly the length, would not have been signed if the rule had already been changed.

For sure. But the Flyers have figured out the workaround, which is to basically have a player go on IR and never be in playing shape, but keep them "active".

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 05:02 PM)
Hossa almost 100% will finish his career on LTIR.

 

No arguments there.

 

Not a good start. 1-0 Swirls halfway through the 1st. Shots 9-2 canes

Carolina scores again. 2-0 canes

Versteeg scores. 3-0 Canes

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QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 05:12 PM)
For sure. But the Flyers have figured out the workaround, which is to basically have a player go on IR and never be in playing shape, but keep them "active".

 

The Flyers "figured out " how to give Chris Pronger life changing concussions and permanent vision impairment.

 

 

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:13 PM)
The Flyers "figured out " how to give Chris Pronger life changing concussions and permanent vision impairment.

And yet he's not retired. How could that be? In any other sport or situation, Pronger would be retired. Everyone in hockey knows exactly what is happening.

 

Multiple teams hide players on LTIR. It's the only way GMs can avoid the huge frontloading penalties.

 

LTIR Frauds

 

Players in this situation are Chris Pronger of the Philadelphia Flyers, Marc Savard of the Boston Bruins and Mattias Ohlund of the Tampa Bay Lightning. Pronger has not played an NHL game since 2011. He is a candidate for the job working in the NHL's department of player safety. Clearly this is an admission that he isn't an active player despite his being characterized as such. Savard has not played since 2011 either. He scouts for the Ottawa 67s of the OHL. That clearly isn't an activity consistent with being an active player. Ohlund hasn't played a game since 2011 either. None of them should count as active players but they do. They only count as active players to skirt salary cap rules.

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Phew this team needs the break real bad

I'll watch another period because the Canes aren't very good, but this is a tough watch so far.

 

Darling in goal to start the 2nd.

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QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 07:18 PM)
And yet he's not retired. How could that be? In any other sport or situation, Pronger would be retired. Everyone in hockey knows exactly what is happening.

 

Multiple teams hide players on LTIR. It's the only way GMs can avoid the huge frontloading penalties.

 

LTIR Frauds

 

I get your point but I'm just saying that Pronger and Savard suffered serious head injuries, so the team isn't hiding a player who is fully capable of playing. You can't just make that up out of thin air with Hossa.

 

Now I'll give you the Ohlund situation, that seems fishy and what the Hawks would need to do.

 

 

 

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The first Carolina game was the first game after Christmas and I almost fell asleep twice at the UC it was so boring. Lucky scheduling break for the Hurricanes.

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