It just doesn't add up how Johnson and Quintana pitch respectably against Minnesota and Sale implodes. They'e middle of the pack in offense, bot Toronto.

 

I swear watching them it's like they know what's coming

It just doesn't add up how Johnson and Quintana pitch respectably against Minnesota and Sale implodes. They'e middle of the pack in offense, bot Toronto.

 

I swear watching them it's like they know what's coming

 

Look at how Hunter turned on the 96 mph fastball inside, and then looked like he was sitting on an 89 mph change-up on the outer half.

So meaningless for a team that rarely spends on pitching (in part because of Cooper), has terrible defenses, and is otherwise effective. No idea how he's tied to Ventura considering he's been in the organization for 23 years now including under 3 managers as pitching coach.

I agree with you in general on everything but the bolded. The White Sox always spend on pitching. They haven't yet invested $250 million in a pitcher like some teams but they always spend. Despite being 15th overall in payroll this season, they're 6th in amount spent on pitching. On top of that, they've invested 3 of their last 5 first round draft picks in their starting rotation and traded position players for pitching. They may not be spending money on pitching the last couple years because of Sale and Quintana, but they have poured resources of every kind into their pitching staff non-stop.

Hunter absolutely looks like he knows what's coming

There were a few Twins who acted as much.

 

 

Look at how Hunter turned on the 96 mph fastball inside, and then looked like he was sitting on an 89 mph change-up on the outer half.

He looked clueless against Quintana yesterday too. Today he's suddenly guessing miraculously what pitch is thrown.

 

It may be something with how he's placing his glove, or some other tell, but If im the White Sox im looking into video of him and trying to see if he's giving away any pitches

So meaningless for a team that rarely spends on pitching (in part because of Cooper), has terrible defenses, and is otherwise effective. No idea how he's tied to Ventura considering he's been in the organization for 27 years now including under 3 managers as pitching coach.

He's been the shadow manager, making the pitching moves. He's been KW's mole...been here long enough.

Infield defense was fine during most of his tenure.

Sox have invested plenty of resources (players and otherwise) into pitchers.

Thornton and Quintana are his claims to fame.

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He's been the shadow manager, making the pitching moves. He's been KW's mole...been here long enough.

Infield defense was fine during most of his tenure.

Sox have invested plenty of resources (players and otherwise) into pitchers.

Thornton and Quintana are his claims to fame.

 

Over the past 10 seasons we're 29th of 30 teams in the big leagues in defense. Only Cleveland is worse. The White Sox regularly flat out don't care about defense. The best teams over that time have won an extra ~50 games due to defense.

Yes, already 4-0, just going to enjoy the Bears actually having a 2nd half shot against GB for now.

 

 

Watching the Bears game here too. Another first inning melt down and the homeruns allowed is just too much to take

Said this all year, but Montas should absolutely be trade bait this offseason. Good luck ever making him a starter

Said this all year, but Montas should absolutely be trade bait this offseason. Good luck ever making him a starter

And my response all year...worked great for Arizona with Scherzer.

He's been the shadow manager, making the pitching moves. He's been KW's mole...been here long enough.

Infield defense was fine during most of his tenure.

Sox have invested plenty of resources (players and otherwise) into pitchers.

Thornton and Quintana are his claims to fame.

 

 

He did make a winner of Esteban Loaiza, but you can't rest of past laurels

He did make a winner of Esteban Loaiza, but you can't rest of past laurels

And contrereas.

 

Pretty insane to think that Loaiza was 12 years ago!

Oh my lord...

Said this all year, but Montas should absolutely be trade bait this offseason. Good luck ever making him a starter

 

 

I don't know about that. A starter who throws 98 plus is pretty good. It seems though that every hard thrower that we hve come along gets sent to the pen. I was afraid that was where Sale was going to get stuck

I don't know about that. A starter who throws 98 plus is pretty good. It seems though that every hard thrower that we hve come along gets sent to the pen. I was afraid that was where Sale was going to get stuck

How did Montas look in his three innings? Haven't been near a TV so I have no clue outside of looking at the box score.

One team ERA in the top 1/2 of MLB in 7 seasons.

Tied himself to Ventura

Bye bye

 

If there is someone better then him yes. But remember how the Sox replace people. It's usually someone from a era when the Sox were playing good baseball. Ability to coach not required.

 

Watching the Bears game here too. Another first inning melt down and the homeruns allowed is just too much to take

 

Double disappointment there.

 

There is no question in my mind Minnesota has figured out how Sale tips pitches.

Said this all year, but Montas should absolutely be trade bait this offseason. Good luck ever making him a starter

Well he's not ready. He did not have his command down in AA.

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There is no question in my mind Minnesota has figured out how Sale tips pitches.

They must have, because no other team hits him as hard as they do.

So is that coops job to figure what the hell he is doing?

So is that coops job to figure what the hell he is doing?

Yes.

 

Now that I think about it, Sale would've still lost even if he only gave up one run.

 

That makes me feel a little better.

They must have, because no other team hits him as hard as they do.

They certainly didn't look like they knew what was coming after he departed either.

Stay hot, White Sox.

 

https://twitter.com/CoryProvus/status/643176106393214976

officially dont care to even watch the Sale games anymore. Football is here!

Sox thought they were facing Bob Gibson today apparently.

 

Mark