How? They shed 28 million in player payroll by trading peavy and rios. And abreu' salary is back loaded

 

Big losses in revenue.

How? They shed 28 million in player payroll by trading peavy and rios. And abreu' salary is back loaded

 

And Abreu can opt out after next year and go through arbitration his remaining 3 years so he will likely get more than what he's signed for. Changing his agent this year bodes well that he will do that.

They only spent about 90 million and lost money?

 

Either way, that’s bound to happen once in a while. My point though is the Sox are not the type of team that is going to go all out and spend big money to try to win it all. Something like the Tigers have been doing the past few years. That’s just not how they operate and I doubt it ever will be.

According to Forbes, they made money in 2014, and lost something like $3 million in 2013, but supposedly were counting Abreu's signing bonus in that figure.

And Abreu can opt out after next year and go through arbitration his remaining 3 years so he will likely get more than what he's signed for. Changing his agent this year bodes well that he will do that.

 

I doubt he opts out after next year. His salary that year is $12.1 million with another $26.8 million guaranteed the following two years. The current record for a first year arbitration eligible player is $10 million by Ryan Howard in 2008 and he had already won an MVP. Abreu would probably break that record but not by much. Would it really be worth risking $26 million in guaranteed salaries to have a chance to gain a couple more million in 2017? I don't think so. Say he goes out and has a career ending injury in 2017. That Sox non tender him the next year and he just forfeited that $26 million. I think if he has another good 2016 and 2017 he will opt out after 2017. The risk/reward is a little more worth it to him at that time.

Edited October 8, 201510 yr by lasttriptotulsa

I doubt he opts out after next year. His salary that year is $12.1 million with another $26.8 million guaranteed the following two years. The current record for a first year arbitration eligible player is $10 million by Ryan Howard in 2008 and he had already won an MVP. Abreu would probably break that record but not by much. Would it really be worth risking $26 million in guaranteed salaries to have a chance to gain a couple more million in 2017? I don't think so. Say he goes out and has a career ending injury in 2017. That Sox non tender him the next year and he just forfeited that $26 million. I think if he has another good 2016 and 2017 he will opt out after 2017. The risk/reward is a little more worth it to him at that time.

 

What does he make next season? Because the arbitration raise would be on-top of that.

 

Edit: just checked. His salary is $11,667,000 in 2016 according to baseball reference. For 2017 it is $12,167,000. So his salary going through arb would be well over the $12,167,000 because he would def get more than a 500k raise in arbitration.

Edited October 8, 201510 yr by soxfan2014

What does he make next season? Because the arbitration raise would be on-top of that.

 

Edit: just checked. His salary is $11,667,000 in 2016 according to baseball reference. For 2017 it is $12,167,000. So his salary going through arb would be well over the $12,167,000.

That has nothing to do with it.

That has nothing to do with it.

 

How does it work then? This is my understanding of it. It's more concrete to me on guys coming up through a system and going through the process as opposed to coming over at a later age.

Edited October 8, 201510 yr by soxfan2014

What does he make next season? Because the arbitration raise would be on-top of that.

 

Next years salary has nothing to do with his arbitration other than setting the minimum the Sox can offer. If he opts out after next year his 17,18 & 19 guaranteed salaries go away and he is at the mercy of an arbitrator unless he agrees to a new deal with the Sox.

Edited October 8, 201510 yr by lasttriptotulsa

How does it work then? This is my understanding of it. It's more concrete to me on guys coming up through a system and going through the process as opposed to coming over at a later age.

 

If Abreu opts out his arbitration process will be no different than any other player.

How does it work then? This is my understanding of it. It's more concrete to me on guys coming up through a system and going through the process as opposed to coming over at a later age.

He gets what any other guy with his numbers would get first year arb eligible. What I am not sure of, is the cut. I believe they couldn't cut his salary any more than 20% from the previous year, but if they are paying him $11 million or $1 million, his arb number, assuming it would be at least $11 million if he was making $1 million, would be the same if he was making $11 million.

Edited October 8, 201510 yr by Dick Allen

He gets what any other guy with his numbers would get first year arb eligible. What I am not sure of, is the cut. I believe they couldn't cut his salary any more than 20% from the previous year, but if they are paying him $11 million or $1 million, his arb number, assuming it would be at least $11 million if he was making $1 million, would be the same if he was making $11 million.

 

I'm pretty sure that number is correct. So if Abreu's salary is $11 million in 2016 the Sox would have to offer just under $9 million.

Abreu is not arbitration eligible. He opts out, he is a free agent. He Dosent even get a qualifying offer

Abreu is not arbitration eligible. He opts out, he is a free agent. He Dosent even get a qualifying offer

 

No he wouldn't be a free agent. He has the option to go through arbitration. Otherwise he would no doubt opt out for free agency to get more money out there. Especially being what 29? He'd get a 6-8 year mega deal easily.

Abreu is not arbitration eligible. He opts out, he is a free agent. He Dosent even get a qualifying offer

 

 

This isn't true. He can take arbitration on the last 3 years of his deal rather than taking the agreed upon salaries. He's with the White Sox for 6 years regardless.

This isn't true. He can take arbitration on the last 3 years of his deal rather than taking the agreed upon salaries. He's with the White Sox for 6 years regardless.

 

As long as the White Sox don't decline to offer him arbit if he opts out, he is ours.