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2016-2017 NBA Thread

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:15 PM)
Trade dead per woj. Bulls fans dodge bullet

God darn it fake woj retweeted

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I can't take anything Fran Fraschilla says seriously. It is hilarious how much he overrates all these European players every year.

Wish the Celtics would take trash from the bulls so they could get baldwin

So still nothing on the Butler front

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:28 PM)
So still nothing on the Butler front

Negative ghost rider

Butler and Valentine to Thibs for Wiggins and Dunn (and whatever filler is needed) makes a ton of sense.......

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:36 PM)
Butler and Valentine to Thibs for Wiggins and Dunn (and whatever filler is needed) makes a ton of sense.......

I'd be stunned if they traded Wiggins

I don't know what to think now. Sounded like it was nearing completion now sounds dead. LOL

Valentine was a safe pick. Don't hate it, don't love it.

 

Now trade Mirotic or Taj and grab a PG.

Ramona Shelburne

ESPN Senior Writer

 

 

Word is Bulls were listening on Jimmy Butler, but not shopping him. Teams ALWAYS listen. Boston made the strongest push for him, but for now I'm told he stays.

ESPN sources say Wolves haven't surrendered their Jimmy Butler quest, but longer this night goes suggests Bulls can't bear to part with him

 

Wiggins or bust

Lol, whelp:

 

K.C. JohnsonVerified account

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Jimmy Butler is at the Advocate Center, the Bulls' draft headquarters.

 

 

So all of those rumors were BS basically.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:46 PM)
ESPN sources say Wolves haven't surrendered their Jimmy Butler quest, but longer this night goes suggests Bulls can't bear to part with him

 

Wiggins or bust

 

this

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:47 PM)
Lol, whelp:

 

K.C. JohnsonVerified account

‏@KCJHoop

Jimmy Butler is at the Advocate Center, the Bulls' draft headquarters.

 

 

So all of those rumors were BS basically.

 

that means nothing...

If Butler is in the war room, there's no way he's going for less than a blockbuster, e.g., Wiggins and Dunn. I'm sure he knows it, so do the Bulls.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:36 PM)
Butler and Valentine to Thibs for Wiggins and Dunn (and whatever filler is needed) makes a ton of sense.......

 

Why are the Bulls having to give up more?

 

If the Wolves want Butler, they can over pay. If they dont want to overpay the Bulls can wait until another team is willing to.

 

 

lol...so Jimmy Butler is now elevated to War Room status?!? Geezus...damn...Marky Mark must really have some pull.

Bulls are going to have an interesting team to watch. Will be interesting to see what Valentine can do. There's some real upside, but some serious downside.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:50 PM)
lol...so Jimmy Butler is now elevated to War Room status?!? Geezus...damn...Marky Mark must really have some pull.

 

Why else would he be at the Advocate Center... He lives/works out in LA...

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:49 PM)
Why are the Bulls having to give up more?

 

If the Wolves want Butler, they can over pay. If they dont want to overpay the Bulls can wait until another team is willing to.

 

More? Not sure what you mean by more? That deal is a win win for the Bulls future IMO...

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:52 PM)
Why else would he be at the Advocate Center... He lives/works out in LA...

 

You're the one that said the rumors were BS since he was in the war room. If he's actually there it would tell me he's being traded more than that he wasn't. He's a player...not a GM...not a coach...and not an advisor.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:52 PM)
Why else would he be at the Advocate Center... He lives/works out in LA...

Butler? He lives in River North.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:56 PM)
You're the one that said the rumors were BS since he was in the war room. If he's actually there it would tell me he's being traded more than that he wasn't. He's a player...not a GM...not a coach...and not an advisor.

 

I think most of it is BS. I think it's mostly overplayed hype by various parties to drum up interest. The fact that Butler is with the Bulls tonight, to me, means the Bulls want him as the franchise player unless they get blown away by an offer and can't refuse. If he was more like Rose and totally unavailable and not returning calls, parting ways for a so so offer would be more believable.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:57 PM)
Butler? He lives in River North.

 

Not in the off season.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 08:52 PM)
More? Not sure what you mean by more? That deal is a win win for the Bulls future IMO...

 

Giving up Valentine?

 

And its not a win/win. Dunn/Wiggins are no sure thing. Wiggins has a lot of upside, but his greatness isnt guaranteed. Butler is the most valuable asset that the Bulls have, if they are going to trade him they need to win the trade easily. Giving up Valentine makes no sense in that respect. The whole point of Dunn/wiggins is you are getting 2 guys for 1 and that makes the risk less high because you hope that at least 1 of them turns into an All-Star. If you give up 2 players for 2 players and you are giving up the best player in the trade who is still in his prime and signed for a reasonable rate, you are unlikely to come out the winner.

 

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