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2016-2017 NBA Thread

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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 12:06 PM)
And I guess you missed last year's playoffs when George put it on the Raptors to the tune of 27/7.6/4.3/2.0 and nearly 3 3-point makes per game. Butler's playoff stats last year? Oh that's right. He wasn't there. Butler is a stud. You don't have to minimize George to make him look better. And George is signed through next season btw. I don't know why you keep bringing up his FA as if he's a FA this summer.

 

This is a terrible argument for George vs Butler.

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Bernstein just reminded me that last year when the trade deadline ended, Gar came to his press conference and declared that Pau Gasol was an important part of this teams future

 

 

 

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Ok, now that might lead to something. Payne?

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:09 PM)

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Ok, now that might lead to something. Payne?

 

Knowing the Bulls they will get Mitch McGary and a second round pick and call it a victory.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:08 PM)
Bernstein just reminded me that last year when the trade deadline ended, Gar came to his press conference and declared that Pau Gasol was an important part of this teams future

 

 

 

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Couldn't make the deal that would have guaranteed the SAC 1st this year (lifted the restrictions) plus given us McLemore. SMH.

Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:09 PM)
Knowing the Bulls they will get Mitch McGary and a second round pick and call it a victory.

If they get Cameron Payne, I somehow feel ok with the deadline.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:10 PM)
Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face

The second part is true. The first part is better than having Doug McDermott.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:59 AM)
I have no idea how the Wizards could afford Paul George, but apparently they're the front runners.

 

GarPax is Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Depends on what you think of Otto Porter.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:11 PM)
Depends on what you think of Otto Porter.

The Wizards wouldn't deal Porter for PG would they? My guess is it'd be Oubre Jr, picks, and more.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:10 PM)
Couldn't make the deal that would have guaranteed the SAC 1st this year (lifted the restrictions) plus given us McLemore. SMH.

 

No kidding. That was the worst of many GarPax decisions.

 

Also awesome that the only chatter re: Bulls moving guys is to OKC who can't trade a 1st until 2022...

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:10 PM)
Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face

Agree. At least McBuckets can shoot sometimes.

I'm not so sure the Wizards are any closer to beating Cleveland with George in place of Porter (wizards obviously give up more than Porter) rather than just keeping Porter. Porter+ for Cousins? Now that would've been something.

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The deal would include Andre Roberson and Cam Payne.

 

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The Dougie McBuckets trade to OKC is getting closer, according to a league source.

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I presume if Doug goes to OKC it would be for Payne. If Bulls like Payne more, I'm fine with it. That said, it wouldn't say much for any thoughts the front office has around Valentine as we'd essentially be carrying like 5 mediocre to crappy PG's (Rondo / Grant / MCW / Valentine / Payne). I'm not even counting Canaan (who never plays anyway).

McDermott and Taj to OKC. Not official who the bulls get back yet.

I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:18 PM)
I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys.

The Bulls are going to corner the market on players who can't shoot. This trade doesn't help them short term or long term.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:18 PM)
I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys.

 

Teams basically don't guard him so those 3s are all incredibly wide open shots and he has to shoot sometimes or else you really can't even play him.

Geeze...if we trade Taj and don't get Sabonis back I'll be dissapointed. That said, I'd have preferred a 1st round pick for Taj (and would think we could have gotten an unprotected 1st from a contender). We do need to make moves so I'll at least give the Bulls credit for making moves (if that counts for anything) and getting multiple pieces back. So is it Doug and Taj for Payne / Robertson + someone else (presumably Sabonis).

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:21 PM)
Geeze...if we trade Taj and don't get Sabonis back I'll be dissapointed. That said, I'd have preferred a 1st round pick for Taj (and would think we could have gotten an unprotected 1st from a contender). We do need to make moves so I'll at least give the Bulls credit for making moves (if that counts for anything) and getting multiple pieces back. So is it Doug and Taj for Payne / Robertson + someone else (presumably Sabonis).

If it's Sabonis, great. If not, it's a train wreck.

Clearly trying to field the worst possible shooting team for an "offensive" coach

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 11:23 AM)
If it's Sabonis, great. If not, it's a train wreck.

Stein reporting Payne and Joffrey Lauvergne (not a done deal...just what he's heard). Not a fan. I would have thought we could have moved Taj for a 1st. Doug should get plenty of open 3's playing aside Russell. I think Doug is a valuable bench piece in this league...the Bulls just can't figure out how to use him properly and have killed his confidence. I really can't stand this coaching staff..epically awful. Front office right there with them too.

 

I am not as down as others are on Cameron Payne though. He has shown nice athleticism, but he's had a ton of injury issues, which is a major concern.

They're clearly giving Taj away after f***ing up with Gasol last year and looking like f***ing idiots.

Well the twitter reporters have backed off including taj.

 

Maybe just McDermott for Roberson/Payne? Whatever.

 

But they still seem desperate to trade Taj and Stein said as much.

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