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Chicago White Sox vs Toronto Blue Jays 6/25/16

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Six home runs and getting killed. Team Dysfunction is at it again. It's hard to do some of the things this team does.

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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 09:08 PM)
I hate this team.

 

When you have 3 starting pitchers, 4 relievers and like 5 hitters that are starting MLB starting caliber.....you are gonna be pretty mediocre. I'm sure the great Hahn will make some more horrible transactions that will be blamed on Kenny

Pen fails again

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 10:03 PM)
Put Lawrie or Anderson in the outfield then and let Saladino hit. Or everyday DH.

 

It's all so easy

Boy this pitcher has nothing. Hope he's not a big time prospect.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 10:04 PM)
Poor play by shuck

 

Looked like a hard hit liner to the wall

The last thing they need to worry about is changing Tim Anderson's position to shoehorn Tyler Saladino into the line-up.

 

If they want to give him some playing time, let him play 3B (and DH Frazier) or DH.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 09:12 PM)
Looked like a hard hit liner to the wall

 

Got caught too close to the wall

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 05:08 PM)
Unless cleveland comes back down to reality, no one in the central will catch them. Sox best hope is the wildcard I think. Obviously if cleveland starts to play like everyone thought they would then the sox could make a run at them.

"Everyone thought they would" in a bad context? I think there were a number of people, me included, who thought they were on paper the best team in this division before the season started. If Kluber could get into a groove they could really be scary.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 05:11 PM)
Boy this pitcher has nothing. Hope he's not a big time prospect.

 

His slider might be on par with the best in the game. That last one to K Pillar was stellar

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 03:11 PM)
Boy this pitcher has nothing. Hope he's not a big time prospect.

 

Well, he once was the mostly highly-touted arm in the Dominican and received the biggest signing bonus (at the time) in history.

 

 

So basically, the Joe Borchard of pitching prospects.

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QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 09:13 PM)
His slider might be on par with the best in the game. That last one to K Pillar was stellar

My eyes are telling me it's very easy to pick up the ball out of his hand and his pitches scream, "hit me hard."

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 09:14 PM)
Well, he once was the mostly highly-touted arm in the Dominican and received the biggest signing bonus (at the time) in history.

 

 

So basically, the Joe Borchard of pitching prospects.

How did the Sox get him?

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 05:12 PM)
Looked like a hard hit liner to the wall

 

It was, he just doesn't look right out there to me. He also trapped himself too close to the wall on the bounce.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 10:13 PM)
The last thing they need to worry about is changing Tim Anderson's position to shoehorn Tyler Saladino into the line-up.

 

If they want to give him some playing time, let him play 3B (and DH Frazier) or DH.

 

I would like to see Tyler play more but what we need is a CF'er

Without looking it up, it seems to me the Sox absolutely suck during day games at the Cell record wise.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 05:15 PM)
How did the Sox get him?

 

I think it was in the Shark trade with Oakland?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 03:13 PM)
"Everyone thought they would" in a bad context? I think there were a number of people, me included, who thought they were on paper the best team in this division before the season started. If Kluber could get into a groove they could really be scary.

 

 

If anything Kluber has been disappointing. Salazar, Carrasco (when healthy), Tomlin and Bauer have all outperformed expectations, but maybe not their own expectations in CLE.

 

I guess it's fair to say Tomlin's record, but we could say the same for Mat Latos.

 

And this is without Brantley, Gomes not being 100%, Almonte/Byrd suspended for PED's and some pretty big holes in their bullpen (including Shaw's struggles in set-up).

 

 

Doesn't hurt that they have 5 Top 100 MILB prospects, to boot.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 04:11 PM)
Boy this pitcher has nothing. Hope he's not a big time prospect.

You don't like to let youngsters develop do you? They should all be hall of fame quality from the get go!

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 03:17 PM)
I think it was in the Shark trade with Oakland?

 

 

Yep, supposedly Hahn "insisted" on Ynoa being included or the deal wouldn't have been made (with another A's prospect substituted).

 

It's just a shame with his health/injury history that Ynoa can't make a legit go at starting. He'd have to develop a more consistent 3rd pitch, but he has two with the FB and slider.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 05:17 PM)
If anything Kluber has been disappointing. Salazar, Carrasco (when healthy), Tomlin and Bauer have all outperformed expectations, but maybe not their own expectations in CLE.

 

I guess it's fair to say Tomlin's record, but we could say the same for Mat Latos.

 

And this is without Brantley, Gomes not being 100%, Almonte/Byrd suspended for PED's and some pretty big holes in their bullpen (including Shaw's struggles in set-up).

 

 

Doesn't hurt that they have 5 Top 100 MILB prospects, to boot.

 

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QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 09:18 PM)
You don't like to let youngsters develop do you? They should all be hall of fame quality from the get go!

I guess I didn't like what I saw there.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 03:55 PM)
Wasn't there a game a few weeks ago where they set the record for biggest number of solo HR in a single game?

Rockies beat someone 5-3. Every run in game was scored on a solo HR. Total 8. Previous record was 5, I believe.

At least bullpen will get two days off assuming tomorrow is ppd

This thread was going quite nicely before caulfield12 and greg775 showed up to ruin things.

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