hi8is Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 "White Sox manager Ken Williams said Friday he's still hopeful of reaching a new contract agreement with star right fielder Magglio Ordonez, currently on the disabled list with a knee injury. Ordonez, the subject of recent trade rumors, is in the final season of a three-year, $29.5 million deal that is paying him $14 million this season. In the off-season, he told reporters he'd like to stay in Chicago with a long-term deal similar to ones signed by Vladimir Guerrero and Miguel Tejada. Guerrero got a $70 million, five-year contract from Anaheim, and Tejada received a $72 million, six-year deal from Baltimore. "We'll put something forth that is not too far away from what he orginally wanted," Williams said without addressing specifics. "We want to make sure we have some sort of protection in the event that he's not healthy in that fifth year, certainly not taking away any of the overall dollars. I think the framework is there for a deal to be consummated. Only time will tell and only he will be able to give us that indication." Ordonez, a four-time All-Star, had surgery to repair torn cartilage in his left knee June 5. He was not with the White Sox before Friday's game with the Cubs. "I don't know where he is. I haven't see him for what four days," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. "When you are on the DL, you can do whatever you want to do." Trainer Herm Schneider said Ordonez was spending the time in a Chicago suburb rehabbing his knee injury. "We backed him off and did some therapy in a more consistent environment. It's just too small here and we can't get done what we need to get done," Schneider said. "I have been in touch with him." Ordonez, who is batting .311 with eight homers and 34 RBIs, was expected to miss four to six weeks. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Old news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 This article and these quotes were obtained and released TODAY... sorry, forgot to put the date... July 2nd.... it looks like KW is going to go to maggs and say... look, this is the best i can do... X mil for 5 years, with a deminishing skills clasue and if you dont take it within the next couple weeks, your gonna finish the season on a diffrent team. thats what it means to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 If I'm Maggs, I'm signing if it is even close to what I am looking for. I highly doubt he is going to get many(if any) sizeable 5 year offers when you consider that he is 30 and has had knee surgery this season. I bet Vlad expected to get more money last year, but his back slowed some interest, even though he is younger. Much as I love Mags, he isn't in the same league as Vlad, and he got 5 years $70 mil. I-Rod had the same problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 This article and these quotes were obtained and released TODAY... sorry, forgot to put the date... July 2nd.... it looks like KW is going to go to maggs and say... look, this is the best i can do... X mil for 5 years, with a deminishing skills clasue and if you dont take it within the next couple weeks, your gonna finish the season on a diffrent team. thats what it means to me. I know it probably was, but Kenny has been saying he has been trying a new contract the whole year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 +K0 and these quotes were obtained and released TODAY... sorry, forgot to put the date... July 2nd.... it looks like KW is going to go to maggs and say... look, this is the best i can do... X mil for 5 years, with a deminishing skills clasue and if you dont take it within the next couple weeks, your gonna finish the season on a diffrent team. thats what it means to me. If the offer is as straight up as that and the money is in the Vlad/Tejada ballpark I think we'll resign him. But (and this is my big worry) if they offer another contract filled with deferred money and incentive-laden clauses in addition to the DSC, the Ordonez era will be over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 This is definitely setting up a trade. A bit of a PR coverup for when he does get dealt...."well we tried our best" kinda deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 yep, i think the same thing... looks to me like a trade is comming sooner then later involving maggs... OR of course, maggs really wants to stay and accepts who knows.... btw they just said on Baseball tonight, "It looks like Kenny Williams and the Sox are going to give Maggs anywhere between 15 and 17 MILLION a year!" wow, either thats good PR set up for a trade, maggs gettin a monster contract, or BBTN has the wrong info! heh and this was on the www.chisox.com front page ""Yes, we do have some deferred compensation tied to it," Williams said. "It was designed to create a little flexibility for us to put together a solid ball club. Yes, the fifth year, I guess is an issue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 "White Sox manager Ken Williams said Friday he's still hopeful of reaching a new contract agreement with star right fielder Magglio Ordonez, currently on the disabled list with a knee injury. Ordonez, the subject of recent trade rumors, is in the final season of a three-year, $29.5 million deal that is paying him $14 million this season. In the off-season, he told reporters he'd like to stay in Chicago with a long-term deal similar to ones signed by Vladimir Guerrero and Miguel Tejada. Guerrero got a $70 million, five-year contract from Anaheim, and Tejada received a $72 million, six-year deal from Baltimore. "We'll put something forth that is not too far away from what he orginally wanted," Williams said without addressing specifics. "We want to make sure we have some sort of protection in the event that he's not healthy in that fifth year, certainly not taking away any of the overall dollars. I think the framework is there for a deal to be consummated. Only time will tell and only he will be able to give us that indication." Ordonez, a four-time All-Star, had surgery to repair torn cartilage in his left knee June 5. He was not with the White Sox before Friday's game with the Cubs. "I don't know where he is. I haven't see him for what four days," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. "When you are on the DL, you can do whatever you want to do." Trainer Herm Schneider said Ordonez was spending the time in a Chicago suburb rehabbing his knee injury. "We backed him off and did some therapy in a more consistent environment. It's just too small here and we can't get done what we need to get done," Schneider said. "I have been in touch with him." Ordonez, who is batting .311 with eight homers and 34 RBIs, was expected to miss four to six weeks. " In the off-season, he told reporters he'd like to stay in Chicago with a long-term deal similar to ones signed by Vladimir Guerrero and Miguel Tejada. Guerrero got a $70 million, five-year contract from Anaheim, and Tejada received a $72 million, six-year deal from Baltimore. "We'll put something forth that is not too far away from what he orginally wanted," Williams said without addressing specifics. "We want to make sure we have some sort of protection in the event that he's not healthy in that fifth year, certainly not taking away any of the overall dollars. I think the framework is there for a deal to be consummated. Only time will tell and only he will be able to give us that indication." A key part of the article. I love what KW said in the first sentence about the X amount of dollars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 This is definitely setting up a trade. A bit of a PR coverup for when he does get dealt...."well we tried our best" kinda deal. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 The more and more I look at it the more and more I want to trade Maggs to get peices for this year insted of giving him 14 - 17 mil a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 On a lighter note.... Lets all imagine that people were skunks, would we be playing in US Smellular Field?? Eh eh.... get it????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 The more and more I look at it the more and more I want to trade Maggs to get peices for this year insted of giving him 14 - 17 mil a year Me too. If you know you can't sign Maggs then get something for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 pitching wins.. if we can get jones and ortiz, go for it... i just doubt we can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I will again stand up and say... PLEASE RE-SIGN MAGGLIO! PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I need to make a sign for when I go to the park and sit in the outfield. "Management: Re-sign Ordonez" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I'd rather have Jones and Ortiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Screw Ortiz and Jones. Both are overrated and overpaid. Keep Maggs for the rest of the year. They're going to need his bat. Doesn't make much sense to trade your best hitter when you're making a playoff push, does it? And who has the best staff going into the playoffs means little. It's all a crap shoot. Did the Cubs win it all? No. How many rings do the A's have? None. Out of 12 playoff appearances, why do the Braves have one ring? I dare you to name two starters for the Angels team that won. You need to be able to score runs in the playoffs, no matter who starts. Besides, I would much rather take a run at guys like Clement, Pavano, Perez, or Radke in the offseason than be stuck with Jones' albatross of a deal. Or we could resign Garcia, or sign Ortiz in the offseason without giving up any prospects or our star hitter to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 either way ill be happy, sign him or get jones (.250/35hr/100) + ortiz (3.67 era good starter)... or maggs for 5 years (.330/40/115) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 This is quite a dilemma. I love Maggs being on the Sox and we need him for the stretch drive, for sure. At the same time, I don't think he's worth 25% of the teams payroll. So if we keep him without signing him, we lose a very valuable commodity and get close to nothing in return. It appears that there is not a good solution to this scenario. No matter what move KW decides to make, it has real potential to backfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 well put.... what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I'd rather have Jones and Ortiz. So would I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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