elrockinMT Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 09:02 PM) Yea every team will be following Detroits lead on that. Well, I guess the Tigers would know his weaknesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) Here's a good example. There's the current Cuban sensation out there available for a lot of money. Sox COULD get him if they want him likely. This is tangible. He's right there. Ready to play. Rather than worry about the crapshoot called the draft, why not talk NIGHT AND DAY about signing this guy? He arguably could help turn the team around next year. There are other ways to win besides the draft where your pick might flop. I'd rather win as many games as possible to enjoy the summer and do other things to win. Besides we still get a first round draft pick every year. Every player may flop, theres a chance. However you are increasing your odds of the best talent the more you lose after you are eliminated. I'm sorry watching an occasional Sox win is the thing that makes you happy, but its better for us as fans if they lose this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:57 PM) A lot of Soxtalk actually wanted the SOX to take Trout instead of Mitchell with that pick. Also... There's a big difference between the 3rd pick and 21st pick. These also a big difference between the third pick and the first pick. I never saw a single person complain when he went. Literally the only comment on the trout pick in the draft thread was "well the Angels sure like outfielders, don't they"? There were no "Nuts, darn, drat, I wanted him!" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 05:04 PM) Well, I guess the Tigers would know his weaknesses Which makes the outside pitch Scherzer threw to him yesterday all the more surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) I never saw a single person complain when he went. Literally the only comment on the trout pick in the draft thread was "well the Angels sure like outfielders, don't they"? There were no "Nuts, darn, drat, I wanted him!" posts. Look at how many other teams passed on him, guy was a good bit of scouting by LAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 09:04 PM) I never saw a single person complain when he went. Literally the only comment on the trout pick in the draft thread was "well the Angels sure like outfielders, don't they"? There were no "Nuts, darn, drat, I wanted him!" posts. A lot of us actually didn't want the Sox to take him due to the comparisons he was getting at the time to Rowand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 05:05 PM) Look at how many other teams passed on him, guy was a good bit of scouting by LAA. Somehow I sincerely doubt the Angels ever had a clue that he'd be this good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) A lot of us actually didn't want the Sox to take him due to the comparisons he was getting at the time to Rowand. There were 3 all stars drafted in that first round, two of them were picked before Trout. Guy kind of exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 09:06 PM) Somehow I sincerely doubt the Angels ever had a clue that he'd be this good. I believe I read where the Yankees LOVED him but he didn't fall to them like they had hoped. There were also rumors about Trout having huge signing bonus demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) Somehow I sincerely doubt the Angels ever had a clue that he'd be this good. Well they drafted a different guy right before him : Randal Grichuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 We got Phegley at 38 that year. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Washington cleaned up that draft. Storen and Strasburg with their first two picks. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikep Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) So what you're saying is that at least we had a chance to take Trout? Yes and our scouts track record should be filed under garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 10:04 PM) Well, I guess the Tigers would know his weaknesses That's what I was thinking. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 10:04 PM) Every player may flop, theres a chance. However you are increasing your odds of the best talent the more you lose after you are eliminated. I'm sorry watching an occasional Sox win is the thing that makes you happy, but its better for us as fans if they lose this season. As a fan, I can't write off seasons. I can't write off any game. Going .500 would mean ALOT more happy summer days for me. It's not an occasional win. Now, after the season? I'm not thrilled with .500, but like I said, I'd rather go .500 than get the No. 1 pick in the draft. That would probably mean my team sniffed the playoffs at least and I had an interesting summer following baseball. Who cares about the draft? It's an inexact science. They aren't going to suddenly say we can't have a first-round pick. Give me a first-round pick and I'm good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) Did we ever demand to know why we didn't take Trout? We may never know. I'm sure there were a few amongst the scouts /braintrust who probably liked Trout more but if you're not high enough in the pecking order in the braintrust then it doesn't matter. Hopefully they keep track of those who support what turns out to be the right choices for promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 09:10 PM) As a fan, I can't write off seasons. I can't write off any game. Going .500 would mean ALOT more happy summer days for me. It's not an occasional win. Now, after the season? I'm not thrilled with .500, but like I said, I'd rather go .500 than get the No. 1 pick in the draft. That would probably mean my team sniffed the playoffs at least and I had an interesting summer following baseball. Who cares about the draft? It's an inexact science. They aren't going to suddenly say we can't have a first-round pick. Give me a first-round pick and I'm good with that. The Sox are 26 games under .500! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 2010 first round, 4 all stars, all taken in the top 15 picks. (13 to be exact) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Hope Robin doesn't call for the bunt brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 2011 first round, one all star, once again taken in the top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 2008 first round, 5 all stars, 3 in first top picks, 2 in supplemental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 10:11 PM) The Sox are 26 games under .500! I was referring to Rock's question. If we go .500, we win a TON more games during my summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) I believe I read where the Yankees LOVED him but he didn't fall to them like they had hoped. There were also rumors about Trout having huge signing bonus demands. One Angel scout was salivating over Trout . Saw him as a once in a generation talent and put his reputation on the line in voicing that opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 2007, 5 again, 4 taken in top 15 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I am not happy with Jordan Danks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) I was referring to Rock's question. If we go .500, we win a TON more games during my summer. And it does nothing but hurt your team's chances of rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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