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Correct , my bad on the typo

It is just for 3 months but a very important 3 months.

Seems to me the Mariners dumped a fairly big contract and a fading pitcher on us. The Sox did not give up much. So we shall see how the rotation is set up. There is still a long way to go in this season. Fatigue and injury are always lurking. Now, if nothing else we have a little depth.

I guess this will free up Eric Lauer to go to the White Sox.

We didn't draw fans then like we are now. Also when we look at his contract didn't he only get $20M this year and he was traded before the season started ? Your memory is selectively betraying you based on always looking for the worst.

We weren't ever going to get our 1st choice. My guess would've been something where most fans initial reaction is unhappiness. Unfortunately it's much harder to reach upside in a 33-34 year old past his prime guy than it is in young players. And since the move requires immediately results the Sox don't have the luxury of patience. May need Bannister , Bove , the Pope and the Wizard to combine their skills.

Do you have data on this? Ive havent seen it. Pitchers, in general, have later peaks than position players now but much of that is tied to debut dates, and the fact that pitchers today aren't hitting the innings levels until their mid to late 20s where as position players are being brought up younger than ever. The aging curve itself appears to be starker for pitchers (avg peak periods are shorter), but pitchers who survive the curve have had more sustained success into their late thirties but these guys are the exception to the rule. I dont see this as some statistically significant difference. And Castillo has every sign of aging in an arm. Walks are up, k's are down, contact rates in and out of the zone are way up, and his former strength (righties) has gotten steadily worse 3 years in a row. This doesnt strike me as a guy avoiding the curve.

Yeah we're so not used to paying anyone that as fans we've lost track of what the rest of decent career good pitchers are getting. Back end of contracts to pay for past performance is rough though if you aren't getting the benefit of the front end.

Approximately 20% of the top 50 starting pitchers are 33 or older. Going to take a 2nd half rebound in a smaller ballpark for Castillo to fit into that category. Feels like an overpay and we figured in the sellers market that could happen. Not sure the innings he can eat are worth it at his current stat level. He has to be better. There's certainly a threading the needle , faith in our coaches vibe to this. Guess we'll see if fans are right this time on whether it's an old Sox or new Sox trade. The juice is going to be hard to be worth the squeeze but not impossible.

Savior? conversion? Very odd religious references. You think Ishbia is a savior? LMFAO. You must think Ishbia cares about anything but himself ? Oh sure, a Private Equity Investor who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and used all of the tools of private equity to enrich himself (largely at the expense of others) is going to be the savior of this team. More on point here, Ishbia is not engaged in this trade deadline or in any decisions that impact this team. But I guess it is just fun to dream wet.

Just start some game threads on DodgersTalk

If there is no cap and no floor, there is probably no baseball in 2027

You mean Castillo as 4/5...?

I could care less about the money and moving Siranthony is fine with me. Boston Smith was a fun story, but will I take Dominguez as a fifth starter replacing Noah for the rest of the season. We get an innings eater and bullpen protection .

I don't think Getz 'panicked,' but he obviously wanted to get this deal done tonight. Until we see the prices on the rest of the arms available out there, it's going to be a little too early to judge on what is the actual cost on this trade. IMO, Getz gave up essentially nothing in this deal, except financial flexibility for the future. Boston Smith likely isn't a catcher long term, is 23 yrs old with half his time in A+ ball this year, and does have swing and miss concerns. He's not exactly a prospect. I think Getz cashed in on selling high personally.

Tax bill higher than half the payrolls in the league

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2026/08/02/tarik-skubla-trade-detroit-tigers-los-angeles-tigrs-mlb-trade-deadline/91139054007/

None of the prospects the Dodgers gave up was viewed as crucial to the team’s future. It was hard to figure out how Hope was going to ever play in Los Angeles—he was considered the third-best outfield prospect on his own Double-A Tulsa team, behind Josue De Paula and Mike Sirota (and Quintero as well). Ryan has shown front-of-the-rotation stuff at his best, but he’s topped 50 innings in a season only once since he was drafted in 2022, and he’ll turn 28 this month. Smith has MLB-quality stuff, but he’s a Class A pitcher who has already missed significant time with an elbow injury. The Tigers got a normal level of return for Skubal, but if Skubal dominates teams in the postseason, it will leave many wondering if would it have been wise for someone else to overpay a bit in prospects to keep the team that has everything from adding one of the best pitchers in baseball? https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/tigers-land-zyhir-hope-river-ryan-brady-smith-in-tarik-skubal-trade/

They do think that he can stick in CFA (for now)...but there's a considerable difference of opinion about how true that will be down the line as he fills out. At the very least, adding Max Clark and Greene into the mix make for a very nice outfield trio. Now the big question shifts to whether the Tigers will eventually have enough pitching if you also trade Mize? https://www.espn.com.sg/mlb/story/_/id/49469642/mlb-trade-deadline-grades-2026-tarik-skubal-los-angeles-dodgers-detroit-tigers-blockbuster A=Dodgers D=Tigers F=the rest of baseball fans

They are...unless you mean Dominguez and his buyout. No way JR was taking on all that money without an offset somewhere... Boston Smith was essentially the "JR cost" of sending Dominguez out.

I would have guessed you could have had Castillo for free if you're taking on all the money. Getz probably didn't need to include a prospect but panicked.

he's fine. i think he has some juice left and the piggyback thing was dumb. that said, his metrics and age and contract are all middling. middling add, I guess taking on this for seranthony is good but yea, middling.

Skubal Yamamoto Ohtani??? Snell Glasnow Sheehan Wrobleski All Star Sasaki back to pen for postseason...averaging 99.5 fb in recent starts Detroit is also likely to trade Mize as well...opening two rotation spots B- "The Tigers got a solid return, but they failed to land Josue De Paula, Mike Sirota or Eduardo Quintero, who are L.A.’s top outfield prospects. It’s also worth noting that they didn’t need to be here. Detroit severely lowballed him during discussions about a long-term extension. And this offseason, it only offered him $19 million in arbitration, which was, frankly, insulting. In the end, Skubal won his arbitration case for a record $32 million. There was no coming back. They should have traded him at that point instead of waiting for the deadline and taking a smaller return. The franchise put itself in this position by not locking up its star player and accepted a package that is below his market value." https://www.si.com/mlb/tarik-skubal-trade-grades-how-tigers-dodgers-did-in-deal-for-cy-young-winner

You watch the Mariners, how bad has Castillo really been?