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Do we still even know if Jerry would have approved including cash in a Robert trade to increase the return? Has he done this before? And no, I’m not including the Eloy trade in which cash was sent to the Orioles. That was still a cash dump trade in which the Sox still lowered their payroll for the season.

The AL West White Sox strike again. This dude barely plays in an season and keeps getting millions. Amazing.

I think Getz tried to be as cautious as he could. He ended up cleaning out pro scouting after that off-season. I don't even remember what trade rumors went around with Cease, Eloy and Yoan. Vaughn. Yes, that off-season would have been the perfect time to trade Robert, just as one week before the great crash of '29 would have been a great time to divest from the stock market. There was no rush with Robert if he was going to be pretty much the player he just was.

It's not a good comparison. They're 2 stupid premises. There was no rush to trade a player who just started to show his promise. You're also pretending that everything we know now was obvious then. I'll give you that Getz should have taken the Reds' offer last off-season. Was that Edwin Arroyo and a pitcher? But even with that, we're still pretending that it was obvious that Robert wasn't going to snap back and have a strong 2025.

Fully agree. I wouldn’t have rolled the dice once more time over this return.

Sadly, once I get over the shock of this trade I’ll be happy he even got back Acuna. But yeah, it could have been a better return regardless. And yes, Getz’s own strategy and timeline once he was promoted have to be considered, along with the state of the team at the time, which makes your last paragraph a mystery.

Because the team that just traded for Robert was probably waiting on other, more preferable OF options first. I’m also assuming the Sox couldn’t find a deal with a smaller market club that warranted eating half the contract. Timing does suck though, but most of the SP’s we could afford are still left. Let’s see if they even go that route vs. just more dumpster diving.

Hard to argue with your timeline. It's good that Getz got something at all for him (and JR is VERY happy the Mets took on the entire salary) but it is a fact the Sox were going nowhere but to stinktown right after Robert had his very good year. Why Getz decided to keep him given the state of the franchise/organization is a real mystery to me.

the NFL cap is largely fake unless you get incredibly in the hole like the Saints have done

They are looking to move one pitcher who they know they can’t resign after this season and another pitcher who is overhyped right now with years of control remaining. I don’t think it is a completely outrageous strategy for them to try to restock and this is the only way a team gets top prospects anymore. But yeah, it will definitely will impact their 2026.

Brewers doing absolutely nothing to try and contend

I was just kidding…Caulfield banned regardless!

2026 will likely tell the story, one way or another. But I know Vaughn doesn’t get $7.65 million for next season if he is never traded to the Brewers.

Meh. He was hot for a good while and then was pretty bad again.

This is not even close to a good comparison, considering the situation at the time (Getz’s own plan). Once Getz was promoted to GM at the end of the 2023 season and the most productive season of Robert’s career, Getz began his rebuild. Rebuilds by your own words take around 5 years to see to fruition. At this point in time, the Sox had Robert locked up for a maximum of 4 more years which means Robert wouldn’t likely still be under contract by the next time the Sox were in competition for the division (once again, your own 5-year timeline for a rebuild). Here were Robert’s salaries for those 4 upcoming years. 2024: $12.5M 2025: $15M 2026: $20M club option ($2M buyout) 2027: $20M club option ($2M buyout) How is this a good comparison to knowing when to trade Colson Montgomery, considering he was just called up last year and is under control at cheap salaries up until he becomes a free agent in 2032, which should also be within your 5-year timeline to see Getz’s rebuild to fruition? It is on one guy to know when to hold em and when to fold em, to know when to sell his players at the right time, and that is the GM. Getz held onto Robert until his value declined so much that all he could get was yet another former post-hype top prospect who has already lost his luster. No different than a Vargas or Mead. If Getz traded Robert after the 2023 season, would he have received a better return than this? Yes, undoubtedly. If Getz traded Robert after the 2024 season, would he have received a better return than this? Yes, undoubtedly. Instead, Getz waited until Robert put up two subpar seasons in a row and got back peanuts for him.

I don’t agree that he has no raw power.

It’s a fucking embarrassment. I still think they add a bit more, but with Robert gone being close to dead last is inevitable. Hopefully Jerry’s loser kids use that money on the Bulls one day and sneak into the luxury tax (not happening obviously).

I 100% think he rebounds with the bat, at least to slightly above league average levels. Can’t comment on his health. Feels like his big problem is his body is too muscular and tight and without an offseason to train differently, I’m not sure what a new club could do there.

Time for a new team song:

This really doesn’t mean all that much. The truth of the matter is that the Sox couldn’t even get a secondary piece that was on the Mets top 30 prospect list. His perceived value does not match his supposed talent.

Andrew Vaughn would like a word.

Don’t let Jerry know about this thing called inflation or it’s even more embarrassing.

Contract the franchise imo