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Or, use Castellanos as the $$ equalizer for the Robert trade. Robert and, say, Lee for Castellanos and Crawford and maybe more....? That gives them an upgrade at CF (and the potential for a big one) a serviceable catcher for no additional $.

Only if they just ate Nick's salary and cut him loose. We need to find ABs for Quero and Baldwin so we can see what they are. Adding a DH fucks that.

I can't help but look at the fact the Sox and Luis Robert deals with Cincy seem to have a clear delineation. For a couple of million dollars, they could have let him walk. For $20 million they can have him for a full season. And if the Reds reporting is true, they can trade Robert and pay $10 million to get three pitching prospects with some rust (injuries, poor MLB performance, you know the Getz Special). The question then becomes, are the three pitching prospects worth $10 million to the Sox.

That's it. The comment sections fill up, depending on the subject. An article on how the Sox are working the waiver wire got 80 posts, while a Podcast article got 20. Somebody might mention a trade in the comments, and a couple of guys might respond.

Looking at the Arenado deal, the D-backs just picked him up on a 2/$11M deal for their most recent 8th rounder, who happens to be a starting pitcher. Could the D-backs have done better on the free agent market? The Angels paid Yoan Moncada $5M last year and didn't give up a minor league arm. Looking at the deal that SSShowdown posited, they'd send Lee to Phil for Castellanos, RHP Matthew Fisher (#10, MLB), and half of Castellanos' $20M salary. Could the Sox do better than his -0.6 fWAR for $10M? Austin Hays put up 1.2 fWAR for half of that. Hays will be 31 in July; Castellanos starts the season at 34. The Sox end up trading Lee (and $5M they're overpaying for a veteran RF who will suck) for Fisher and hope for a dead cat bounce out of Castellanos. Is that a good trade?

Tomlin is done in Pittsburgh.

Do they have a full forum there? I thought it was just articles with a comment section for each article

With as many teams as are out there in financial trouble, it would actually be a great way to acquire talent. Why teams and GMS are scared to do it? No idea.

He is somewhat subdued at SoxMachine.

We don't need to be taking on salary right now, full stop. use any excess resources in the org to continue to build up the analytics and scouting teams in LA and Asia.

I agree. But how often does that actually happen? Who is giving away prospects to unload bad contracts?

If he loses a step, and he will, he won’t be putting up 4+ WARs. Whatever team gives him a long-term contract into his 30’s after this season is making a mistake IMO.

What was the ban bet

It’s crazy how Cubs bloggers value Nico as basically the best trade chip on the planet.

@Chicago White Sox is still evil for doing that to poor @caulfield12. I wonder if he is through the initial “shakes” stage of SoxTalk withdrawal and if he has moved on to vomiting?

Besides the fact that the Sox already have one bloated LF/DH salary in Benintendi for two more years that they don’t want, and another $20 million dollar salary in Robert that they have been looking to trade.

If the Sox (or Dbacks in this case) would have taken on the full deal, the returns would have been much different.

At best they'd get a back end top 100 guy to take on like 20-30 million of salary. Not sure that's a great use of resources.

Every Twitter string has somebody suggesting the White Sox take on a bad contract to pick up "one or two prospects", like that's a thing that happens regularly.

Yeah that stuff just doesnt happen in MLB. That is a NBA and NFL move due to cap manipulation.

We're all doing a great job working together during this trying time.

This was the point of my post in the old hot stove string. Nobody's sending "prospects" to get a team to take on bad contracts. they sent money and even got a minor league arm back.

He’s still good defensively. For the price, I think he’s fine. I still feel like they need to add another bat somewhere though so he’s at least hitting in the bottom third of the order.