June 28, 201312 yr With the looming trade deadline and Hahn's recent declaration that everyone is available outside Sale and Konerko, what do you think this club is going to look like a year from now? I'm thinking it'll be something like: C Flowers/Phegley 1B Dunn 2B Beckham SS Call-up/free agent 3B Gillespie/Morel LF De Aza CF Call-up/free agent RF Danks DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Hector Santiago CL Addison Reed RP Nate Jones RP Free agent RP Free agent RP Free agent RP Call-up Just staring at that potential lineup makes me incredibly sad, but that is the reality of the situation the Sox are in. Looking at the 2014 free agent class, there isn't much there that excites me. I would love a "younger" impact bat along the lines of Brian McCann or Shin Shoo Choo, but I dont think either of those guys are coming here. Might need to focus on good defensive guys and retooling the bullpen to even remotely have a chance at competing.
June 28, 201312 yr C 1B 2B Beckham 3B Gillaspie SS LF CF RF SP Sale SP Quintana SP Santiago SP Danks SP CL Reed RSU LSU MR Jones MR/Righty Specialist Lefty Specialist LR Axelrod Bench C 2B/SS 3B/1B Morel OF Danks
June 28, 201312 yr C Phegley 1B Kyle Blanks 2B Keppinger SS Alexi Amarista 3B Gillespie/Morel LF Viciedo CF Danks RF Corey Hart DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Tyson Ross/Gavin Floyd CL Ramon Tronosco RP Nate Jones RP Jhan Marinez RP Santos Rodriguez RP Donnie Veal RP Joey Devine Trade Santiago, Crain, and Flowers to the Padres for Blanks, Amarista, Ross, Adys Portillo and Cory Spangenberg. Bullpen is basically a revolving door while the Sox evaulate guys from the system that can be long term contributors. Of course other deals will bring back players as well, but I they will probably not all be ready to contribute on opening day.
June 28, 201312 yr C Flowers/Phegley 1B Dunn 2B Beckham SS Ramirez 3B Gillaspie / Keppinger LF De Aza CF Trayce Thompson RF Granderson DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Hector Santiago SP Erik Johnson CL Addison Reed RP Nate Jones RP Simon Castro RP Dylan Axelrod RP Free agent RP Daniel Webb
June 28, 201312 yr DH Dunn SS Beckham 3B Gillaspie SP: Sale, Quintana, Santiago, Danks, Axelrod RP: Reed, Jones, Veal, Omogrosso Bench: Gimenez/Flowers, Keppinger, Danks All other roster spots: players acquired from trade or FA
June 28, 201312 yr C Pierzynski 1B Belt 2B Cano SS Beckham 3b Machado RF Rios CF De Aza LF Viciedo DH Dunn SP Danks SP Peavy SP Santiago SP Quintana SP Axelrod/Johnson
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 08:55 AM) C Phegley 1B Kyle Blanks 2B Keppinger SS Alexi Amarista 3B Gillespie/Morel LF Viciedo CF Danks RF Corey Hart DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Tyson Ross/Gavin Floyd CL Ramon Tronosco RP Nate Jones RP Jhan Marinez RP Santos Rodriguez RP Donnie Veal RP Joey Devine Trade Santiago, Crain, and Flowers to the Padres for Blanks, Amarista, Ross, Adys Portillo and Cory Spangenberg. Bullpen is basically a revolving door while the Sox evaulate guys from the system that can be long term contributors. Of course other deals will bring back players as well, but I they will probably not all be ready to contribute on opening day. I understand the whole "rebuilding, who cares what side" argument regarding the lineup, but this division is far too right handed to be using a lineup that right handed. Also, if they signed Corey Hart and added 0 other hitters, it would be the most pointless exercise in exercising exercises that I'd exercise my right to pound my exercised head against a brick wall, which will also be exercised.
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 08:55 AM) C Phegley 1B Kyle Blanks 2B Keppinger SS Alexi Amarista 3B Gillespie/Morel LF Viciedo CF Danks RF Corey Hart DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Tyson Ross/Gavin Floyd CL Ramon Tronosco RP Nate Jones RP Jhan Marinez RP Santos Rodriguez RP Donnie Veal RP Joey Devine Trade Santiago, Crain, and Flowers to the Padres for Blanks, Amarista, Ross, Adys Portillo and Cory Spangenberg. Bullpen is basically a revolving door while the Sox evaulate guys from the system that can be long term contributors. Of course other deals will bring back players as well, but I they will probably not all be ready to contribute on opening day. I understand the whole "rebuilding, who cares what side" argument regarding the lineup, but this division is far too right handed to be using a lineup that right handed. Also, if they signed Corey Hart and added 0 other hitters, it would be the most pointless exercise in exercising exercises that I'd exercise my right to pound my exercised head against a brick wall, which will also be exercised.
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 07:47 AM) C 1B 2B Beckham 3B Gillaspie SS LF CF RF SP Sale SP Quintana SP Santiago SP Danks SP CL Reed RSU LSU MR Jones MR/Righty Specialist Lefty Specialist LR Axelrod Bench C 2B/SS 3B/1B Morel OF Danks This is the most realistic if that's what you want. We don't know what the lineup will look like in August much less 2014.
June 28, 201312 yr I was thinking what's the cable lineup for 2014 since I probably wont care to watch the team unless a "Trout" type player emerges from the farm system. Since 2007 they have been one of the most boring teams to watch.
June 28, 201312 yr Author QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 09:03 AM) C Pierzynski 1B Belt 2B Cano SS Beckham 3b Machado RF Rios CF De Aza LF Viciedo DH Dunn SP Danks SP Peavy SP Santiago SP Quintana SP Axelrod/Johnson While I would do the Machado for Sale deal, I dont know that the Oriolers would be interested in that.
June 28, 201312 yr C Flowers 1B Dunn 2B Keppinger 3B Gillaspie/Morel SS Beckham LF Viciedo CF De Aza RF Pence DH Morales SP Sale SP Danks SP Santiago SP Quintana SP E. Johnson Because why not. Won't bid high for the best outfielders, but Pence will be a nice player that may not be overpaid and should be able to be a piece for a winning version of our team and/or a nice stop-gap player if things don't work out. A player that could potentially have value near that of Rios with lower salary. With departures of Rios, Peavy, PK, Floyd, Crain, Thornton, we'll still be saving money even if we pay market value for Morales and Pence. Won't need to add FAs for rotation. Might look at a vet or two for the 'pen and Lindstrom may be brought back via team option if he is not traded.
June 28, 201312 yr C- Suzuki 1B- Lind 2B- Beckham SS- Ramirez 3B- Gillaspie/Keppinger LF- Viciedo CF- Granderson RF- Rios DH- Dunn SP- Sale SP- Danks SP- Johnson SP- Quintana SP- Santiago/Axelrod
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 11:00 AM) C- Suzuki 1B- Lind 2B- Beckham SS- Ramirez 3B- Gillaspie/Keppinger LF- Viciedo CF- Granderson RF- Rios DH- Dunn SP- Sale SP- Danks SP- Johnson SP- Quintana SP- Santiago/Axelrod That is about as bad as you could make the outfield, defensively.
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) C- Suzuki 1B- Lind 2B- Beckham SS- Ramirez 3B- Gillaspie/Keppinger LF- Viciedo CF- Granderson RF- Rios DH- Dunn SP- Sale SP- Danks SP- Johnson SP- Quintana SP- Santiago/Axelrod The second Granderson set-back of the season is making his affordability more and more likely. Hometown discount?
June 28, 201312 yr Personally I hope that after these moves we will make at the deadline & during the offseason we end up with a better CF option than Curtis. Nothing against Curtis, and again I have no problem signing vets to fill the spaces that the young guys aren't ready to take, but really CF & SS is of major concern. You just can't count on Trayce. If by some magical turn of events he becomes an MLB starter then you thank your lucky stars & consider it a potentially excellent player falling into your lap. I keep mentioning Martin because he might be out there, and he's MLB ready with a nice floor. We should try to get players like that, real CFers who aren't going to K 4 billion times and can play now.
June 28, 201312 yr C Phegley 1B Morales (free agent) 2B Keppinger SS Beckham 3B prospect (acquired in Rios or Peavy deal) LF Viciedo CF Granderson (free agent) RF prospect (acquired in Rios or Peavy deal) DH Dunn IF free agent IF Gillaspie OF Danks BC Flowers #1 Sale #2 Danks #3 Lincecum (free agent) #4 Santiago #5 Johnson CL Reed SU Jones SU Webb MR free agent LHP MR Castro MR Rodriguez LR Rienzo
June 28, 201312 yr C- Dioner Navarro 1b- James Loney 2b- Beckham SS- Jose Iglesias 3b- Jim Negrych LF -DeAza CF- Leonys Martin RF- Josh Redick DH Dunn Did only the position players just for fun since I really don't think anyone can accurately predict who will be on the Sox in 2014. Edited August 24, 201312 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
June 28, 201312 yr Part ideal, part realistic: C- AJ 1b- Napoli...or Morales 2B- Gordon SS- Alexei 3B- Gillaspie/Keppinger platoon RF- Rios CF- De Aza RF- Viciedo DH- Dunn 1. Sale 2. Peavy 3. Santiago 4. Q 5. Danks/Johnson/Axe Jones and Reed out of the pen. Fire Robin. Hire an actual candidate. In the least abuse MLBs new second hitting coach rule and bring in Omar Vizquel. He wont help with the hitting but Alexei should be a million times better defensively. Hopefully. Edited June 28, 201312 yr by Buehrle>Wood
June 28, 201312 yr C Phegley 1B Viciedo 2B Keppinger SS Beckham 3B Gillaspie LF CF Danks RF Thompson DH Konerko IF IF OF Mitchell BC #1 Sale #2 Danks #3 Quintana #4 Santiago #5 CL Reed SU Jones SU Webb MR Lindstrom MR Heath MR LR
June 28, 201312 yr I don't understand why we want Granderson. He's a LF masquerading in CF, he strikes out 25%+, and is becoming old and injury prone. Used to be really good, but now he'd just be a bad contract.
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 01:50 PM) C Phegley 1B Viciedo 2B Keppinger SS Beckham 3B Gillaspie LF CF Danks RF Thompson DH Konerko IF IF OF Mitchell BC #1 Sale #2 Danks #3 Quintana #4 Santiago #5 CL Reed SU Jones SU Webb MR Lindstrom MR Heath MR LR BOLD! Predicting Konerko is here but Dunn is gone.
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) C Phegley 1B Kyle Blanks 2B Keppinger SS Alexi Amarista 3B Gillespie/Morel LF Viciedo CF Danks RF Corey Hart DH Viciedo SP Chris Sale SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks SP Jose Quintana SP Tyson Ross/Gavin Floyd CL Ramon Tronosco RP Nate Jones RP Jhan Marinez RP Santos Rodriguez RP Donnie Veal RP Joey Devine Trade Santiago, Crain, and Flowers to the Padres for Blanks, Amarista, Ross, Adys Portillo and Cory Spangenberg. Bullpen is basically a revolving door while the Sox evaulate guys from the system that can be long term contributors. Of course other deals will bring back players as well, but I they will probably not all be ready to contribute on opening day. Why would anybody want Flowers? Santiago is a decent prospect, nothing special. Crain is good, but old. Why would the Padres ship us all those guys for one stiff, one decent lefty and a good but aging setup man?
June 28, 201312 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) Why would anybody want Flowers? Santiago is a decent prospect, nothing special. Crain is good, but old. Why would the Padres ship us all those guys for one stiff, one decent lefty and a good but aging setup man? Santiago is a heckuva lot better than a "decent, non-special prospect". Flowers would be a decent backup C and actually would be a decent fit for Petco since when he does get ahold of a ball he hits it a long way. He also still has some promise to improve with time. Not a lot of value, but teams do need cheap backup catchers.
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