WestEddy

only if he wore Florsheim wingtips to the plate.

Sure. But my question is - should you be drafting and developing 1B? Use that draft pick on some CC hitting outfielder and bounce your Ryan Galanies over there until a true power hitter comes along. Our Venezuelan shortstops seemed to have moved to 1B quickly as they bulked up. Drunken, World Series commercial naval gazing - if you're doing it right, you're going to have the shortstops and centerfielders who grow out of the position, and the one hitter who can't field can concentrate on 1B.

So with the Cubs, Larry Himes was a hot-headed psychopath who blew apart the team with his "personality", but he was unfairly fired from the White Sox solely because he wouldn't kiss JR's heinie? LOL. Which team was it that takes swipes at an employee's reputation when they're fired? 2 funny.

Should they? Why can't they repurpose the worst fielding, best hitting outfield prospect? Right now, Galanie and Caden Connor are the AAAA first-basemen on the clock. They don't have as much power but probably strike out less.

GMs generally don't generally get plate appearances in games.

Weird how Himes didn't win big time with the Cubs.

No, they aren't. But Elko is a poor man's Andy Wilkins. He's a AAAA slugger.

the true irony is that the one guy who most likely finally got Reinsdorf to invest in the right things is the one everybody hates and wants gone yesterday. Moar Ron Schueller!!

For as overmatched as Elko looked, he got a nice loooooooong chance. As I responded to WSBFW, the Sox didn't need to watch the guy look like a blindfolded child wailing at a piñata for 4 months in order to see what they had. Every single player move doesn't need to implicate the White Sox as big meanies.

I was told that the goal posts should move, and real sports fans should expect more and more from their team. Seems like all the old guys loved missing the World Series every year after '59. Is that emoji the clown who gave you balloons in the stands instead of World Series Championships? And hey, a quick search tells me that guys like Seaver and Carlton were 16 around 1960. Why wasn't Veeck scouting and signing them? Was he too busy at the circus scouting the next year's distraction from him missing the World Series again?

lol

A little more background on the Johnson hire: Orioles coach Sherman Johnson joining the White Sox as a minor league hitting coordinator | Sox On 35th

I read it as, "The White Sox where horribly run in the early 60's and wouldn't get better until Bill Veeck sold the team to a rich owner."

But do they do that? I think the most craven reason I've heard was the Sox used to not use the DL to keep their league numbers better. They'll keep a guy on the bench for a couple of days in the hope that he heals up, and the starter is worth more for 10 days than a replacement player is for 15. This year, they've even called a guy up for a single game, then demoted him just to have that 26th guy the one game before Robert came off the IL, or something. If they've tried to save one day of league minimum salary in the past, I'm unaware.

I agree with this. And they're going to be serious in the Rule 5. They're not going to spend money. But they're not going to keep running guys out there who aren't producing. In 2024, they had no depth. Last year, they had no depth but played the waiver wire well. Next year, they'll have group of pitchers to pick from.

You're not making an argument, now. The World Series isn't even over. There's an entire off-season to play out. You're assuming they will acquire nobody, will plug in the same 5 guys who finished the season in the rotation, and not replace them if they fail. They don't need to pick two winning Powerball tickets in the Rule 5 again. I'm really not even sure what you're arguing. I think I've explained my reasoning.

Burke, Cannon and Gomez were worth half a win between the three of them. I guess it's fun to pretend there is no way for a team to do better than that, they'll plug in 3 ineffective starting pitchers, and nobody will step up and outperform them. That's essentially the logic you're using.

Sure, that's all within the realm of possibilities.

They played .430 ball after the ASB. That rounds up to 70 wins over 162. Next season's rotation probably looks something like Shane Smith, Davis Martin, Gomez, Grant Taylor and a wily, cheap veteran. Burke probably competes for a spot, too. I contend that the same team develops further and adds 5+ wins to their 2nd half performance level. You seem to be implying that they won't be able to run a pitcher out there who can do better than Jon Cannon's -0.5 bWAR. That was a weird rule change where MLB stopped letting baseball teams add players in the off-season.

Antonacci, B. Monty, Schultz, McDougal, and they get Thorpe and Adams back.

That's exactly what I was going to say. My own thought is they'll win in the mid-to-upper 70s next season and competing for the division in 2027. They might be "really good" in 2028. He has them two whole years behind that.

I think it's been strongly hinted at that if they keep Robert, Getz has about another $10M to spend.

I don't follow the Padres all that closely to know whether the fanbase is still in love with the surviving brothers. I'm sure another Dodger World Series victory will only make the base love them more. Reinsdorf sucks as an owner. His weird, adversarial attitude makes it all personal. I find myself flabbergasted by the concept of a billionaire dealing with 29 other billionaires and corporations - let himself get played by a faction of them, becoming the face of an unpopular move to establish a salary cap and wiping out a season in the process, then while standing there with a big protest sign saying "Screw the players", turned around and saw he was alone, and everybody stabbed him in the back. We give rich people the benefit of the doubt on intelligence because they found a wrinkle in the financial system to exploit. I guess his answer as to why he keeps shooting himself in the foot is because it's going to feel so good when the gun's finally empty.

Okay, you got me. I was wrong when I was so specific in saying that all teams' fan bases except the championship winner hate their owners. You seem to agree with pretty much the rest of what I responded to you and WS23. I'm really not sure what I'm full of s%*# about, unless that's your own clever way of telling me that I've nailed it again. Your first point, I sure hope you find the guy who said that and give him whatfor. You agree with me that the White Sox went to the playoffs in 2020 and 2021. Liptak said he'd be happy with 5 appearances in 10 years, and I told him he wouldn't. I didn't say he should be grateful for 2 appearances in, what, 20 years? I said they get glossed over, therefore, the people who have been vociferous in their hatred of Reinsdorf for coming on 30+ years would not accept 5 playoff appearances in 10 years. And Lip's comment was in being argumentative over me stating that Cub fans aren't happy with Ricketts. Tony, I fully encourage you to not accept things you don't like. My argument in this thread is that billionaires and corporations buy baseball teams, now, to max out free money from the government under threat of losing a baseball team. The goal of their ownership is usually a new stadium in a stadium village where they get billions of dollars pouring down upon them. They will set up this cash flow, then sell the team for 20 times what they paid. Now, I realize I'm being too specific, and somebody will pop in and point out that one or a couple owners didn't do that, or a few teams are way profitable and try to win regularly without tapping into that money stream. That's great. There are also financially conservative dudes who would argue that the government should be putting money into owners' pockets. Good for them, too. Reinsdorf sucks as an owner. But he sucks as an owner for the actual reasons he sucks, many of which we agree on.