WestEddy

Well, the only legitimate "long term" prospect acquired was Zavala. The prospect guys thought he was a steal, so I'll go with them. Prospects don't plug in, then hit .300 with 30 HRS at every level, every year. The league adjusts to them, and the player needs to adjust back. It's weird how you get to dunk on everybody when a player hits a rough patch in the minors. I have no confidence in your ability to look at a stat line and "know" if a prospect is good or "sucks". I don't know what your problem is with Julks. He has 5 years of control left. He's adequate to hold down an OF spot during a rebuild. Julks and Lopez accomplish having people at positions to play baseball games. You seem to overlook that key aspect. Maybe Julks develops more power, and becomes a keeper. Everybody's screaming that they should give prospects a shot. Julks is getting a shot. You wanted a .500 OPS outfielder in a corner spot, and Michael A. Taylor would be our shitty, starting CF right now had we signed him. So you don't get to act superior.

I would honestly be confident penciling Julks into the 2025 OF/DH/1B mix. Fletcher has hit in the majors.

WS2023's big signing would have been Michael A. Taylor, and he's OPSing an even .500 right now. 23 also screamed about grabbing Canaan Smith-Njigba off of waivers, over and over and over. He's produced a slash of .243/.364/.353 for a .717 OPS and 1 HR. DeLoach slashed .281/.370/.369 for a .739 OPS and 2HR. DeLoach is 8 months older than Smith-Njigba. But DeLoach sucks, and WS2023 is great.

The subject was whether it would take 6 years to have a winning season again. You're arguing that because a previous front office couldn't solve RF or 2B, a new front office wouldn't be able to find baseball players to play those positions. Julks was picked off the waiver wire. He has more than a season of stats to look at. He certainly looks like he can play LF or RF for a couple of years. One win was all that was really expected out of DeJong and Lopez. I said 1-1.5 back in ST. They replaced -2 WAR at SS, and 0 WAR at 2B. For what Getz wanted, yes, that's a good thing. I'm not sure how you get to argue that the Sox won't post a winning record for the next 6 years, but I'm the one with low expectations. You believe that an established CF on the market would take less money to be the weak half of a corner OF platoon. No, I don't think a fan could have done a better job.

I believe the Sox are eligible for the draft lottery again for 2026.

Mike Shirley is a much better scouting director than Hostetler. And I like Getz' ability to just churn through players, sign them, throw them out there, DFA if they sink, trade them if they swim. Yeah, the bulk of this team is 2 years away. Julks looks like a starting RF. Pham looks like a starting LF. Even though DeJong and Lopez are tough to watch, they'll each have produced about one win by the end of the season, maybe more.

Seriously, you could probably write 4-5 paragraphs about this as a new topic, pin it for a day, then promote that on Twitter. Viola! You're a content creator. Driving traffic to SoxTalk. That would be better and different from all the trifling BS the bloggers all thrash and regurgitate.

The first part of your post just validates what I'm saying. A 20 game swing is their presence in the lineup affecting the won-loss record. Who ever implied that nobody ever imagined baseball players could get injured? These three, in particular. They specifically got 2 right fielders who could cover CF, and they have a half dozen utility infielders between the majors and AAA.

What was illegal about sliding into home plate?

Right. Just tagging onto your post of how restrictive it used to be compared to now.

I honestly don't know why this is the answer to "three of their top hitters got injured". Robert, Yoan and Eloy are on the team. They have guaranteed contracts. I'm assuming there was no trade interest for Yoan or Eloy, and nobody got close to what Robert's worth. They had to go into the season assuming they had a starting 3B, DH and CF. You're saying it like, "you don't get to claim that Robert, Eloy and Yoan being out of the lineup at the same time had any affect on their won-loss record". When it really does. They wouldn't be a run-away first place team with all three, but they wouldn't be vying for worst record ever, either.

Good. We're horrible at hitting with runners in scoring position. Maybe have him steal home once a game.

They're saying Robert is getting the call up today.

Why stick with the guys who aren't working out? They stuck with Benintendi and Vaughn way too long. Every team deals with 40-man issues. Some of the guys we've complained about are still bouncing around the league. Bailey Horn. Burdick. Smith-Njigba. What is "roster protection"?

How did he not "plan" for it? He had his replacement DH sitting on the bench, and his replacement CF playing RF. Sosa and Shewmake didn't work out at 3B. It would be nice to have 3 top 20 prospects in the game sitting in AAA waiting for a shot. We don't.

I don't know why this matters. Knowing players can get injured doesn't mean you don't have to replace them when they do.

Willie Mays was "banned" from baseball in 1979 when he took a job as a greeter in a casino. His contract stipulated he could not bet in that casino, and the casino did not do sports betting. Bowie Kuhn didn't want anything to do with gambling.

Yeah, if we traded Colson Montgomery for Frankie Montas, that would be a panic. This is just fielding a lineup, getting the kids who are getting shelled out of there is prudent.

Where does one go to report an exaggeration? Who cares if he's setting a record for roster moves? Is that something we're supposed to be deeply ashamed of? I really only have a problem with 2 moves, so far. Signing Maldonado and Clevinger. We all seem to forget they lost their 3 main offensive players, and had 2 other starters crash and burn. The GM should be shuffling in anybody who can fog a mirror to get some runs. And actually, Duke Ellis is kind of the next in line. There's DeLoach, then right after him, there's the group of Ellis, Veras, Burke and Tatum. Maybe they don't want DeLoach to sit. Colas is up, and will probably get real innings. Fletcher got a good long look to start the season. Julks played his way into the lineup.

This is a true sentence.

There's not a lot of challenging me to defend some strawman that was just concocted, anymore. I've pretty much stopped responding to the main practitioner, and you & Quin seem to have settled down. Although it does still stick in his craw that Seby Zavala is an example of the Sox getting better at developing the catching game of their catchers.

Thanks. I'm impressed you actually took the time away from correcting every other exaggeration on this site to focus on mine.

I didn't suggest that at all. That's a silly leap to make. I'm sure the White Sox give their players training programs to follow in the offseason. It has been suggested that the team is somehow responsible for forcing players to follow them.