WestEddy

I believe he listed out people who will "make starts" this year. Thorpe will probably start the season on rehab. There will be double-headers. There will be trades. There will be injuries and fatigue. I'd say 13-14 pitchers made "starts" for the Sox last year. (non-bullpen games)

Sean Burke tomorrow.

This part: Did you forget you wrote this?

Okay, there you go. Fletcher homer. Screw Canario.

Perhaps he made up an example that was indicative of the complaints so as not to single out a person for their inane BS.

That said, I'm going to proclaim Getz's brilliance in acquiring Teel based on that one simulated game homer off of Sasaki today. More of that, please.

I think Cali is defending Venable for his answer, and then asking who else should get PAs at 3rd. He doesn't seem to be saying to cut Vargas.

But hey, 121 losses happened, and my referencing that elevates anything I suggest to Einsteinian levels of brilliance.

And maybe they feel they're not a good fit for a guy with his profile. Do we have confidence that the Sox can fix a guy who strikes out at a 40% rate, yet? Nobody's really taking Tim Elko seriously as a major league hitter.

MLBTR chat counterpoint: I think he's interesting. Again, 28 other teams took a pass.

Actually, they were meaningless last year, too. That's why they don't count them. Don't confuse correlation with causation.

Almost makes one realize that spring training wins and losses are meaningless.

Or maybe they see Canario as a AAAA outfielder who is out of options, and isn't a sure bet to hit in the bigs. Not every player the White Sox pass on is a sure fire Hall-of-Famer. It sure is fun to pretend, though.

Baseball players understand how options and all work. It's fanciful to pretend that a 26 man roster is "the best 26 men available", when in fact, there's guys you don't want to lose because they're out of options, signed a major league deal, etc. If a rookie doesn't understand that, and decided he's going to give up because somebody else got an opportunity he thought should have been his, he probably would fail after the first bad strike call on him.

*Nothing* in his profile? He OPSed .860 or above in 5 full minor league seasons. BA, MLB and BP had him as a top 40 prospect in the game. I get that he's had a rough go of it in 3 major league stints. We don't have to pretend that he never had any business walking onto a baseball field.

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SoxMachine podcast talking about what they saw in the first 3 games. They also touch upon the Ishbia news. Podcast: Early Observations of White Sox Spring Training

He was a top 40 prospect, no options, he has to play somewhere. I'd say he has about 4 months to show he can hit.

Jansen's strikeout rate dropped from "elite" to "very good" after his age 29 season. Closers get in for racking up saves. If Jansen sticks around for a couple more seasons, hits 500 saves he has a great argument for the HOF. Josh Hader is 2 seasons away from qualifying for the Hall of Fame, so if he's already stuck around "too long", then he's SOL.

I'm not sure how that translates to "hanging on too long". Same with Jansen. They're both very effective relievers who are still getting paid.

Hader's 30 years old. He had a bad 2 months in San Diego in 2022. His next 2 seasons were his normal fare.

Casey Saucke. 2024 4th rounder, has always hit. Didn't look overmatched in his 99 PAs in high-A. He was 2 years younger than the competition at that point.

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