WestEddy

You still won't answer the question. And all the "bats" the people were screaming for the Sox to sign - Michael A. Taylor, Adam Duvall, Nick Ahmed, Hunter Renfroe - Pham is better than any of them. I await your answer.

Oh, he should have signed all the good players? Great idea!! You're evading the question. So the entire world knew that Robert, Yoan and Eloy would be injured 11 games in. Tell me, what was Getz supposed to do with this knowledge? A) Cut them B) Bench them C) Pay money or prospects to trade them D) Overpay other players to sit on the bench and eventually replace them A, B and C would be ludicrous wastes of value, and I'd love you to tell me all the 4 WAR players who were clamoring to sit on the Sox bench, and watch them lose until somebody got hurt. Oh, you can't give me a list of players who would sign for $2 million dollars and then put up 4 WAR? God, what a shitty GM you would make.

I'm confident you have no idea how long this organization would take to turn around. Again, the people who "knew" this team sucked, and that they would have to rebuild sound like idiots when they pretend to have been fooled by a press conference. If you're comfortable telling the world you're that stupid, have at it. We already knew, though.

Joke's on you for listening to a new hire press conference, and believing all the happy talk. I think it's way sillier to know this team sucked in a bad way, they had to blow it up and rebuild again, then be "shocked" that they blew it up and rebuild. Does this happen to you often? Are you shocked every morning when you go to the bathroom because you thought this bathroom business was taken care of yesterday? I wasn't "shocked" they got hurt. You've even admitted their record would be better if all three didn't go down. I'm not sure what the point is. Again, my question to you is what should Getz have done? DFA all three in the winter? Pay down their contracts or send prospects along to trade them? Bench them? It's a silly strawman to pretend that I was "surprised" that injuries happen.

He was stuck with 3 guys who get injured. They got injured, and their absence added to the horrible start. I don't see two different ways I'm trying to have it. He had to roster Eloy, Yoan and Robert, make them bench pieces, cut them, or trade them. Please tell me how a "competent" GM would have handled that situation, coming in. Now will you own up to the both ways you want to have it, of declaring that Getz "should have known" that all three would be injured at the same time that would magically put players the equal of or better than them when the thing he "should have known" happened?

Then you are a coward. You asked, I answered. Thanks for letting me know I can disregard your man-baby takes, going forward.

Yes, he's done better than "bad". I think we have no idea how well he's done. We won't have any idea at least until the winter meetings, really. He was saddled with 5 positions being written in to the lineup by their contract and draft status. All he could work with was 4 offensive positions, and the pitching staff, under certain budget constraints. We also don't know what feedback he was getting from free agents as far as whether anyone worth anything would sign here. The Sox seemed to have been a last resort, as evidenced by the stories behind the Clevinger and Pham signings. It's probable that guys like Manaea and Montas took less to go to possible competitive situations than play here.

He was screaming that Fedde never should have been signed in the first place, now Fedde's his boy-eeee, and Getz can only mess up his value. LOL.

That guy also argues vociferously that Getz started with a roster burdened with three guys who everybody knew would be injured within the first 10 days, and two others would hit famously before their career norms. He's never clarifies if he thought Getz should have cut Benintendi, Vaughn, Robert, Moncada an Eloy, or signed players better than them to multi year deals and benched the 5.

The White Sox picked 5 players who were on the same Cape Cod league team, the Chatham Anglers. Light article profiling the five. https://www.chathamanglers.com/chatham-angler-news/2024/2197/White-Sox-Front-Office-Talks-5-A’S-Alumni-Selections-In-2024-MLB-Draft

Once he started listening to the coaching staff, he's been lights out.

People also laughed when I said 68 wins. Maybe everybody was just in a giggly mood that day.

He's marketing Crochet as a TOR starter who can pitch a full season plus. Crochet isn't that right now, so he'll probably hold out until he is. He's marketing Robert as a 5 WAR CF who is currently injured, and not performing at that level. He'll probably hold onto Robert until he's healed, and put him out there again. If teams don't want to pay TOR starter prices for a guy that's on an innings limit. Perhaps you can tell us the magic sales tactic that will start the Oriole prospects to come spilling forth from their minor league system.

Do we know this? Or is it reading between the lines of his comments on relieving?

These guys bought a car, once, and got the dealer to throw in the mid tier undercoating for the price of the value package. So they know how easy it is to shake loose 4-5 top prospects from another team.

More bathroom reading, just throwing 12+ trade ideas against the wall. https://www.soxon35th.com/10-trades-for-the-white-sox-to-consider-at-the-2024-trade-deadine/#google_vignette

I could see this stemming from a single contentious conversation about an extension that Getz abruptly cut off, so they're playing their next card.

Or that's what teams are telling Bob Nightengale and others. We're 4 days away from the deadline. I'm sure teams weren't thinking, "Hey, we're going to pick up this guy who never pitched more than 50 innings in a season, and who looks on track for 150, and then we're going to wring him out in the post-season, then laugh at him when he's hurt and the biggest payday he'll ever get is $800k". I would bet that everyone considering him has a plan to limit innings, piggyback him, make him an opener for a month, then ramp him back up, use him to get to the playoffs, then use him as a 3-inning bullpen guy one game a series.

What are you talking about? There's a new GM. There's a new contracts guy. We don't know what their philosophy is on extending the youth. But then, the Sox' version of Chourio and Keith is Schultz, Smith, Taylor, Adams, Schweitzer. See, they've been drafting pitchers with their high picks for the last few years. Once some position players step up, maybe they'll start talking extensions. Do you want them to extend Korey Lee and Dominic Fletcher for 8/100? They don't have any of those "can't miss" types right now. Maybe Bonemer or Wolkow starts looking like that in a year or so. I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that because they haven't given any extensions to the suck that has been this team for the last couple years, they will never give extensions again. Are you surprised every morning when the sun comes up again?

No, it's time for bed. Go brush your teeth, and we'll read you a story.

Guys with no trade clauses renegotiate their deals when traded. Nobody's complaining about their attitude when it happens. No GM worth his salt is going to let a 2nd hand quote stop them from acquiring a game changing pitcher.

Of course. This entire spring here was one long argument about how the White Sox should take 3 years to ramp up Crochet, and how dangerous what they were attempting was. I seriously believe Crochet's ask is about the risk of this season, and not subsequent seasons.

How? If he pitches a full load through to the end of the year without issue, he's good to go in the off-season.

Bathroom reading: One prospect on each team the Sox should target https://www.soxon35th.com/one-prospect-from-every-team-the-white-sox-should-target/