SoxBlanco

This would not be true if we signed Grandal first.

You forgot three important steps: 1. Increase payroll to $170M in 2021 by signing Betts. 2. Win the World Series. 3. Celebrate.

He's talking about Holt and Dickerson. He thinks either of those two guys can be signed for a max of $10 million per year.

Huh? We were 72-89. That's literally 17 games under .500. Yes, if we were 9 games better, we would have won 81 games, but it's pretty obvious where the 17 games came from.

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I’m ok with that as long as we add a legit DH, like JDM.

I wish we would have lost our DH on multiple occasions this year. We'd probably have a better output from that spot in the lineup.

I'm starting to think that Grandal should be the first target because whether or not we sign him will affect who else we go after. If we can't sign Grandal, that means McCann and Collins will be the catchers, and somebody like JDM would make sense at DH. But if we do sign Grandal, then there is no need for an additional DH because Grandal, McCann, Collins, and Abreu will just rotate between 1B, DH, and C. Overpay Grandal right away. Last year, he turned down a contract of 4 years, 60 million. If we offer him 3 for $65 right off the bat, will that be good enough to get him to sign immediately?

This. Why would somebody fall on the sword for a shitty record in a rebuilding year when many core pieces played well?

I think Luis Gonzalez is going to get back to being a legit prospect next year.

No way. I understand the fear, but there’s just no way that happens.

Yeah, Vaughn being called up next year will depend on how he hits as well as who we sign this offseason.

How would people feel if our offseason consisted of signing Grandal, Calhoun, Abreu, Wheeler, Nova, and a bullpen arm?

If he hits well in AA, he could be up in July or August, which would not be within a year of his draft date.

Did you mean to say 2020?

Yeah, would it be possible for somebody to take all of these lineup posts and discussion and move them to the Future Lineup thread? I agree that the FA market isn't great for RF. But what are the chances that we would win a World Series with Nimmo instead of Calhoun (and all other things being equal)? In other words, if the trade doesn't put you over the top, why give away prospects when we could just wait until next year to see if one of our prospects is the answer or if there is somebody who is a FA after next year that could help?

I'm bumping this thread to make it easier to get some posts moved from the Moncada thread to this one.

I wouldn't hate that, but considering how much money we have to work with, I think trades should be considered a last resort.

That works, too. What do you think it'll take to get Nimmo?

Just wait until Vaughn comes up.

1. Robert CF 2. Moncada 3B 3. Jimenez LF 4. Grandal C 5. Abreu 1B 6. Calhoun RF 7. Anderson SS 8. McCann DH 9. Madrigal 2B

That's why we should aim for our getting our top priority locked up as quickly as possible, even if it means overpaying. Whether it's Cole, or Grandal, or somebody else...just overpay them right out of the gate, get them on board, and use that to attract other free agents. If you combine our young core with a solid free agent, we become a pretty desirable place. Yes, I know they money still needs to be offered, but the point remains.

If we offer Cole $250 for 7 years right at the start of free agency, does he take it or shop around all offseason trying to get more?

Offer Cole a contract of 7 years for $250 right off the bat. Tell him we want to lock him up right away in an effort to attract other free agents. If he wants to shop around, he risks losing that offer while me make offers to the Wheelers of the world.

Yes, they our.