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I said the entire time he would sign under slot. All I'm saying is those two combined are the entire draft pool and the Sox will not sign anyone else that has any meaningful demand. All seniors.

Let me clarify: They got him under slot, but they got him for a lot less under slot than they just spent over slot on round 2. I think it's a lot less of a savings as you guys seem to believe.

He will not go for 20th+ pick slot. Arguing that is absurd, imo. At best, they get him for around 3.75. And then they're having to pay Kelley 3 to 3.5+ and again, the pool is spent. The draft is over for the Sox.

I am agreeing they 100% can make them both fit. I'm saying they can not make anyone else fit.

This makes no sense. Juniors have plenty of leverage. Especially juniors in a year with so many questions, whom throw 99 MPH with elite secondary pitches from the left side who happen to be huge. Seniors have no leverage - even less than the zero they usually have. A junior still has a little leverage, and he can say he'll sign for less but it's not 1+ million less imo. No way. Not a guy with his talent in a unique situation.

Why? Because he's a college JUNIOR who throws 99 MPH with a 70 grade slider. He's not a senior. There was no season. Crochet has leverage. He is an elite talent who could easily go back to school and be 1-1.

The Cards getting Fletcher in, I believe, the Comp round last year is a travesty. I think Fletcher is going to be a star. He was a late blooming northeast kid. incredible athlete.

There's no reason the Sox should have saved a lot with Crochet.

Not hating; I said I usually prefer quantity, but I'll take these two. Still think it's really risky though and would rather have Ed + Kelley. Two arms is just a risk for me, and one high school righty.

They will be north of 6.3. They are north of 7. 6.3 would be well below what they can demand and are looking for.

Complete joke; with you there. They have benefited big time from it too.

Ding ding ding. Harold and I on the same page. Sox just spent all their money on two pitchers. Risky for sure - high upside, big downside.

No chance imo. I'm guessing Sox have spent 7.5 million min of their 7.7. They have nothing left. This is a two man draft + seniors. 11th slot is 4.57; Sox could MAYBE push him back to 15-16 money at 3.7. Then their 2nd round pick wanted top tier money, and was as high as 10 on some boards. In the second, if you gave him top 15 money he'd probably forego school. Maybe top 20. That's another 3.25 min.

Kelley was never going to be a cheap sign. He had first 15 money all over him in this draft. Gotta believe that sox aren't getting a discount really at 11 either. Sox are going to be spending, I'm guessing, 4.2 and 3.5 on the top 2 picks. that's 7.7 which is there pool. At best, maybe 4.2 and 3, and they have .5 left. Nothing. I think Sox worked it out to fit those two under pool, and rest of the way is a punt. Those guys both could argue top 15 money which is the entire pool

Yeah, I think the Sox draft is pretty much over in regards to super high upside young talent. It's seniors the rest of the way, or juniors they're praying are concerned about having a packed draft next year. I'd say seniors though.

How much money could the Sox really have left? They are kind of stuck now the rest of the way, no?

So the draft is over for the Sox though, right? These two will take up pretty much all of their pool in regards to signing anyone else of real sneaky talent. Doesn't mean they can't find someone seniors and etc. Great draft, but sometimes I do prefer quantity - especially with the risk of SP's. That said, these two guys have great builds and upsides and could be exciting. Role the dice enough and things will come up how you hope.

Reality is they've actually been good at developing pitching when compared to the league. This pick is fine - I'd like more production. The Sale comps ring hollow given how dominant Sale was in college as well.

Best RH high school pitcher you could draft.

Yes, the top of the talent pool is overlooked in the north due to what you listed, which is exactly why I'm so bummed... because the Sox had this kid right under their noses and the only team in Chicago paying attention was sadly the Cubs. Oh well. On to round 2. Everything is a crap shoot in these things anyway.

yes, that's unfair. C, SS, 2B and CF are all "up the middle" draft slots.

This just isn't true. I'll put this in the system tomorrow. Reps certainly matter for middle-tier players; it can separate a mid-tier talent in the mid-west from one in the South. The top of the talent pool though? It just doesn't matter. Ed is at the top of the talent pool. Another overlooked Northern kid. At least now they're going in the middle-end of round one. They used to fall out of round 1 all together. Everyone having a player like Veen ahead of Howard is a complete joke imo.

Ed had like 6 weeks of travel ball/showcase where he wasn't the absolute best player everyday, and people started saying he was struggling vs "elite talent." Then he dominated every other week of his life. The critiques of Howards bat are absolutely laughable. Classic northern kid bias because he only gets the spotlight 1/2 the time, so his one time "Struggle period" (in which he was still an elite player) is amplified well beyond where it should be.

Mike Trout kinda good. Alek Thomas says hello. There's so many more. Either north east/midwest scouts are complete trash, or people just overrate reps for kids at the top of the talent pool.

No, I don't care about the analysts of a sport that has a hit rate of about 8% after the first 10. It's the one sport where someone who is educated on baseball can make the same "guesses" and "projections" as the experts. There's a reason Yorke just got drafted here. A lot more to the game than just skill.