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From what I heard, UCONN and Maryland weren't even options for him as of about 2 months ago. It wasn't by choice though... They were contacting him more than they were allowed to and supposedly giving him some freebies they shouldn't have been...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 02:52 PM) I could really see it being Michigan. I know he and Glenn Robinson III are buddies. Plus I just can't see him making it at Duke, especially since all indications are he will be a one and done. http://detnews.com/article/20111027/SPORTS...pUXb0g.facebook He almost popped for UM 2 weeks ago until Billy D visited him at school. I still think it will be UM, but his parents are pushing Duke. I don't know why being a one and done wouldn't mean Duke... Austin Rivers will be a one and done.

2nd City is a definite must see. SS of Heaven, as someone said, is amazing. You can usually hotwire a good deal for a 4.5 star Hotel. Mercadito is a restaurant we always hit up. Zeds 451 for dessert. Really though, so many options in Chicago. Just depends what you like.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 21, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Off to Purdue It's a little late now, but hope you hit up B-fast club!

He went to prep and got the proper help he needed. Sounds like he had more issues than just his ADD. He's a monster now. He would probably be at IU if it weren't for the people around him. There's a reason Indiana and Purdue "suddenly" left the picture.

McGary has completely transformed his body and his mentality. He's going to tear it up for a year and head on to the NBA.

Roberson needs to be the QB anyways. The only way I see IU winning any games in the future is with a mobile Qb like they had in Kellen Lewis. QB and WR's have never been a problem at IU, it's been the lines and the defense.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Oct 20, 2011 -> 11:13 PM) I'm going to ask because as much as I should be in tune with Purdue, I'm not. Would Purdue's chances rest mostly on Robbie Hummel's health and effectiveness? Do they have enough behind him if he isn't the player he once was. I would definitely say yes. I've heard he looks pretty good in practice already though. The question will be can he get his own shot after injury and with the double teams he's going to face without EM and JJ.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 01:26 AM) Ah; I figured it was something along those lines. I definitely understand that viewpoint, and mostly agree with it -- as long as it also meant that testing positive for it wouldn't be a fireable/reprehensible offense. Basically, making it so that it was entirely legal, it just couldn't be sold in stores. But selling would be legal, possession, etc. Granted, if the government were to go that far, I doubt they'd miss out on all the tax dollars by not legalizing it. I really just don't get it. Alcohol is a more harmful drug than marijuana; if people bring up the "yeah but it's still smoke and that's bad for you" argument, the incredibly easy rebuttal of "Then let's make tobacco illegal" waits to meet them. I think my underlying anger with this is that I can't stand it when people in general accept that things are legal or illegal, without attempting to understand the reason why that's so (and if they can't reason why, questioning why it's so). It's excruciatingly frustrating. It's honestly retarded. Decriminalize it already.

"We know Tom Crean went to Hamilton Southeastern a day after the contact period ended and had contact with Gary Harris. Crean went to HSE believing it was the final day of the contact period based on information given to him by assistant Tim Buckley, according to IU’s report. In actuality, It was the first day the contact period ended and the evaluation period began. There are three periods of time in recruiting: The dead period (means nothing can happen; no watching, contact, anything), the evaluation period (coaches can watch and evaluate prospects during allowed times such as high school games or practices or certain weeks in July but can’t talk with them) and the contact period (when coaches are allowed to have contact with players, their parents, etc.). Had Crean been at Hamilton Southeastern on Wednesday and spoken with Harris, it would have been allowed. It happened the day after, so it was a secondary violation. It is worth noting that Crean and Buckley reported the violation themselves to IU’s compliance department ? Buckley even going over there in person to tell them ? and IU reported it immediately to the Big Ten and the NCAA. Now, what are the penalties? Well, it’s worth noting that IU self-imposed several penalties for the secondary violation. A very high percentage of time, the NCAA accepts self-imposed penalties for secondary violations and that’s the end of it. Certainly, there is a high degree of sensitivity to NCAA violations considering IU is on the verge of coming off three years probations for Kelvin Sampson’s violations. However, Sampson’s violations were more serious for two reasons: First, he was a two-time offender and, second, his actions were viewed by the NCAA as a systematic, organized, intentional attempt to circumvent the rules. Making a mistake on the recruiting calendar will not be viewed the same. A secondary violation, in general terms, is something that is “inadvertent” or “isolated” and doesn’t give a team a significant competitive advantage. If this is viewed by the NCAA as inadvertent and isolated, based on precedent, that will be the end of it. Now, could IU get hit harder because it already is on probation? It is possible, but NCAA previous decisions suggest it isn’t likely. (That’s not an opinion. That is a statement based on precedent. There is a difference.) Just for comparison’s sake, Alabama this summer self-reported 44 secondary violations that occurred over a two-year span. Any serious sanctions? No. As with any situation such as this, the NCAA evaluates an institution’s report, decides whether to accept it or investigate further. If the NCAA investigates further and finds more to the situation, it has the power to charge an institution with a higher violation. Given NCAA president Mark Emmert’s stance to stop wasting time on small issues and focus on major ones, it’s difficult to believe this gets much attention. Now, about the one line in the report: “Has the institution declared the student-athlete ineligible? Yes” That is nothing more than a procedural item. It means, at this moment in time, Gary Harris is not eligible to compete for Indiana University. It does not mean IU cannot recruit him nor does it mean Harris can’t play for IU. All it means is that at this moment, Gary Harris is not eligible to compete for IU. After the self report has been evaluated and if it is accepted, Harris will be “reinstated.” It may sound a little silly, but it’s procedural. If you’ll recall, IU committed a secondary violation in regard to Derek Elston - he received a T-shirt - and IU was allowed to continue to recruit Elston, who, obviously, is currently playing for IU. At one point in time during the paperwork reporting of that violation, Elston was listed as ineligible for IU. So again, that line is a procedural item. Now, will this be a deciding factor in the recruitment of Gary Harris? It seems rather doubtful. I can’t count the number of players I’ve covered who had a school commit a minor violation during their recruitment only to end up there. That’s not to infer any leaning on Harris’ part, only that history suggests these moments by themselves most often do not determine the outcome of a recruitment. What will be final outcome? That won't be known until the NCAA responds to the report and we see if it follows precedent or goes another direction. UPDATE: A source who deals in compliance issues just emailed late to make a very good point: All recruiting contacts must be logged. If on Oct. 6, Indiana coaches went to the school's compliance office and had the visit to Hamilton Southeastern already logged, it would be difficult to prove it wasn't a mistake because there was no attempt to hide the visit. It was logged. It was on the books, so to speak. The source said that is one question the NCAA would ask, if it gets to the point of questions being asked." IU reported 11 secondary violations last year alone, most just never hit the media. Happens everywhere, you just have to file to see the the school's compliance records, which evidently someone from UK did. So basically, the NCAA will accept IU's self imposed 2 day penalty and host Gary Harris this weekend.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Oct 10, 2011 -> 05:12 PM) I feel so bad for that kid, he has the worst time with injuries. In terms of this season though, it doesn't affect anything, at least to me -- I wasn't including him any rotation projections, because I had no idea what his health status would be (though I certainly didn't expect him to get injured again). No joke, 3 serious, serious injuries in a matter of 22 months. That's worse than freakin' Hummel. Agree with you though, he wasn't even cleared for full contact before this. Oladipo and Sheehey will be just fine.

They've looked damn good the past few weeks.

Shane Wynn was a huge pick-up for IU out of Ohio. I remember Rock liked him. Takes the kickoff to the house to start the game.

Joe Cowley has an extra chromosome.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 11:08 AM) That also has nothing to do with expectations for IU or how important basketball is in Indiana. It really boils down to HS basketball in the state. Nowhere else compares when it comes to fan following and such.

QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:49 AM) I was joking, I just don't like He Gawn OR Indiana anything.. Weird, I don't even know who the heck you are, nor have I seen your username in here. Sorry that I like IU and you don't. Boo-f***in-hoo

QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 02:04 AM) You always have ridiculous expectations, IU will never be good again.. just accept it WTF are you talking about? IU being a bubble team this year is ridiculous? IU has been horses*** for 3-4 years now and I was ready for it each of those those. Ok "PAPA"

QUOTE (Papa Tru @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 11:32 PM) lol, tell that to He Gawn.. At what point have I had ridiculous expectations in this thread? I said this year I was finally excited about Indiana Basketball. Have you watched IU the past few years? We should be a bubble team. In the coming years, yes IU should be very formidable. Nice comprehension.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) I love the irony of Illini fans lecturing IU fans about expectations. touche

QUOTE (farmteam @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 12:11 AM) Same...sort of. I think we'll be way less of a pushover, so that's awesome...but I really can't wait for the 2012 class. Hollowell has a chance to be a Freshman All-American. Agreed, but if Watford is still around, Jeremy won't have the looks to garner that attention IMO. Yogi on the other hand, is the best pure PG IU has had since the 80's.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) When people think Indiana, they think "hey, remember when you rushed the floor last year after beating your non-rival?" And when people think Illinois, "hey, remember when you lost to one of the worst Indiana teams in history?"

Yea, I didn't start the smack talking. I get it, you guys need a rival. You're about 3rd on IU's list. Indiana is still relevant enough that when people think Indiana, they think basketball. They can also keep their top players at home to play for them... What do people think of when someone mentions Illinois? Yea...

Then you obviously don't know anything about Brad. Uh huh, and you guys are. At least Crean has an excuse. They stop this year. Or we could just blame it on the seniors like Illinois does every year... Ohio State, MSU, IU, Wisconsin, and even Purdue have set themselves up for the long haul. Catch-up.

HAH. Illinois fan talking crap. Bubble team this year, but with the talent coming in, I could coach that team deep in the next few years. You'd think you'd be rooting for Crean to be OK. Last thing you want is Brad Stevens taking over a team of 4/5 stars. I know I love that you still have Brucey, as I'm sure the rest of the big ten does.

Hear you all on that. It's the first time in a long time I've actually been excited about Indiana basketball.