MeanJoeCrede

My guess is every team's fans except for the Yankees, Nationals, and Angels are sounding about the same way. Even the Nationals fans are probably b****ing about not keeping Rendon and I know the Angel's fans are pissed about not getting any pitching except for Bundy.

I still get chills when I'm replaying some old highlights with his calls! Congrats Hawk!

OMG, Just stop! I will go on record as saying I love the Mazara trade ! After losing out on Wheeler, this is exactly the kind of move that needed to made. Deep breath, regroup, win a trade, it's still only Dec 11th! With Wheeler, all of us started squinting and seeing a path to contention this year. Without Wheeler, it becomes much more about stepping back and realizing we have a TON of shit that would have to go perfectly to win the division. Gio, Yoan, TA all continuing to improve or at least not regress. Cease and Lopez both taking a giant step forward. Kopech and Rodon coming back at a high level from injury. Robert and Madrigal stepping right in and performing at a high level immediately. The relief corps continuing to outperform projections. Acquiring plus starting pitching. Is it really that horrible of a thing to add Mazara to all the question marks for 2020? I for one prefer it to literally WASTING the money on a RF if any one of these things dont go our way. A million times more likely that several things in this list dont go our way and we finish slightly better than .500 than trading for Mazara costs us a playoff berth. HAHN WON THIS TRADE. PERIOD.

Hard Pass?

King Felix

Does anyone know the exact dates where each one can come up and gain the extra year?

Tayron isn't enough?

If that deal could actually happen, which it cant/won't, you do that EVERY SINGLE DAY. 2nd basemen are a dime a dozen, Thor absolutely is not.

Is "Marcell Ozuna" spanish for Stephen Strasburg?

If true, I absolutely HATE this signing. Feels like a complete knee-jerk reaction to losing Wheeler. Worst fit long term in right field of anybody who was/is available this year. And that's not even accounting for the fact that Sox most likely paid a premium to get him early.

It is interesting to me that out of the thousands of posts I've read in multiple threads here, I'm pretty sure this is the first one I've seen where someone suggested trading any of the young MLB position player core. Collins, yes. A couple of the young pitchers, yes. But I dont remember seeing any Moncada, Anderson, Jimenez trade suggestions. Maybe one with Anderson....

Stras+Moncada+Joc>>>Rendon+Moncada+ Scrub Starter we have to sign after we spend "the money" on Rendon

That's only because of our raised expectations when it looked like we might get Wheeler. We all suddenly saw a way where THIS year could actually have a path to the postseason. With what's left of the pitching market, it's much easier to return to thinking that this year we take steps toward contention and genuinely compete for the Central in 2021.

Why not? We've all CHOSEN to believe the narrative. Hahn giving it a shot, probably to appease Jerry, to land the best cheapest option(Wheeler) does not mean they havent discussed the fact that they might not be successful and might just have to spend more to get what we absolutely, positively NEED. No way I believe Hahn or Jerry assumed they would automatically get Wheeler and if not, the rest of the lower tier would be just fine. Love em or hate em, nobody gets to their respective positions by being that clueless and unprepared.

The fact that we're even talking about a Plan B is bullshit when Plan A should have always been and should now still be to SIGN COLE OR STRAS. We are all a bunch of dumbasses for falling for this shit. Every single one of us is smart enough to know that if you can pay $250 million plus for Machado, you can pay the same amount for a franchise altering pitcher, and so is Jerry. I'll take my chances every single time with Cole/ Stras + Moustakas (estimated $50M/ year) over Wheeler+ Machado (roughly $54M/ year). That said, I choose to believe we sign Cole or Stras until they actually sign elsewhere.

No thank you

If what Nightengale is reporting is true and Wheeler turned down 5/$125 from the Sox, couldn't he have just used the $7 million to buy her a jet to go to NJ whenever she wanted? I honestly cant think of a single time in any sport where an athlete left $7 million dollars on the table.

Brock Holt

Please, please stop with the Billy Hamilton talk! He isnt now and never has been a solution to anybody's centerfield or lead off needs. He has no business being on any major league roster as anything but a pinch runner.

I did the same!

What's the exact date he needs to stay down to regain that extra year of service time? Anybody know?

Yes

1.no 2.no 3.yes 4.yes 5.yes 6.yes 7.yes 8.yes 9.yes 10.no

Even if we signed Cole, Wheeler, Grandal, and Edwin?

Elated is stretching it quite a bit. How many Sox fans would be even remotely excited if it was announced that Mercedes would be our DH this year?