BackDoorBreach

Yeah. I mean, there isn't any reason to do that trade if they are asking for Vaughn. Idc if they trade Vaughn but I'd rather it be for a young SP.

I don't think I'm doing Vaughn for Beni straight up which is kind of what this is.

JOC BACK ON THE MENU BOYS.

This is such a ridiculous proposal.

Back end starter or RP is what I read.

I'd be fine with Teheran, he eats innings and is younger than Nova. They still need to land a #2 or fringey #3 from somewhere.

I used to draft him every Franchise season of 2013 and 2014 of MLB The Show because he was an A prospect and flip him for like prime Tulo. He was garbage to pitch with.

They obviously can't start him all year I wouldn't think but they can break that up by using him as an opener or some innings from the pen.

That's not what I was arguing. He's going to be starting for them, that makes 3 SP on the OD roster, like us.

I wanted him as our bad SP to eat innings for Kopech. What a fond memory.

No, I was counting Graterol (?) who they are planning to start this year.

They have 3, just like us.

There are definitely plenty of things to be upset about this off season.

Nats apparently don't want to give Hudson more than a 1 year deal. I don't see why we couldn't give him 2/12. That's crumbs.

No. They could have signed Rendon for just money and we already don't have pitching.

I believe I said if Dallas Keuchel is our big FA SP addition I'll be seething. He's not very good and his numbers have been getting worse. He's not going to kill the team like Madbum at 5/100 would if he takes a 3 year deal but he's such a gross signing and does nothing for me, in my humblest of opinions.

I thought he would get 16 a year before FA started, which I thought was a fair number. He's probably around 18 a year with how this has been playing out for 4-5 years.

I don't think there is any chance Castellanos is there until February. He's arguably the best bat on the market and he's 27.

Yeah Mets are out.

I know they know nothing about the Sox plans. But Haugh and Mulley are Sox fans and their comments are resonating with how this FO is operating.

We don't have 5 pitchers, they need to sign pitchers. Allocating money for 3-4 years on a FA shouldn't impact extending any of these guys right now.

Mulley, Haugh, and Zack Zaidman said no chance Sox sign a Boris client. Haugh said the FO needs to get out of the game and that they embarass Sox fans. They really need to make a couple big moves. I'm really hoping they have something in the works that is impactful.

Im eagerly awaiting Rick Hahn and the FO shills to explain how King Felix is actually a good thing because it's an upgrade over Despaigne and Covey.

So who is left that aren't legitimate dumpster dives? Ryu Keuchel Teheran McHugh Nova ?

This is why what they did in RF still makes me seethe. We aren't paying Betts 300+ million so scratch him off. I would be shocked if Springer doesn't get extended. So then we bid against numerous other teams for Joc and just hope he signs here. That works really well for us. Instead of doing all this we could have just given Ozuna or Castellanos 18 million AAV and had a meaningful upgrade.