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exactly "forget" is not in the Bible - we are called to forgive but God does not ask what is impossible, which is to forget a grievous harm- it is possible to remember and yet forgive we as Christians do that when ever we celebrate Communion/Eucharist - we are remembering the death of Christ yet celebrating forgiveness: "this is my body/my blood given for you for the forgiveness of sins" and we sing Lamb of God, you take away the sin of the world - in remembering we forgive as we are forgiven as Christ forgave those who put Christ on the cross - only God could take an act of raw violence (against God's own self in Jesus) and turn it into a sacrament of forgiveness - and that is such a powerful message right there there are certain things we will never forget - but we can forgve and let go of the anger, bitterness, and hate and find ourselves healed in the act of forgiving - there are people to forgive that one may never trust again - Jesus didn't call us to be stupid - but to be innocent as doves and wise as serpents (interesting analogies there, Jesus...) it is possible to forgive while someone who harms you serves a criminal sentence for doing you harm - the Pope forgave his potential assassin in jail - the guy who blasted my cousin's head off is in jail - yet for violence, Jesus is very explicit in the Sermon on the Mount. But this is not a thread on that. It is a thread on forgiveness. And in my own experience it is the healthiest thing one can do to move forward in my own life.

I hope so because that looked so painful I remember him pulling up lame in a few games

I think you captured the zeitgeist of JR as well as anyne has.

I never watch any of that stuff, or listen to it either. In the mornings I need the calm style of NPR. All the yelling and screaming and hype and big talkin' on most radio and tv is way too much glitz and sturm und drang in the morning. The rest of the day will be frantic enough, this is my low key peaceful period!

I think that is how it will work. At least I hope so!

really? I didn't realize that Jose was having hamstrings problems. He had a hell of a time before with those, what was that, 2001 or 2002? I can't recall the year but I remember how much the hamstring problems bothered him and how painful it looked when it struck him on the field.

I am very gratified by the poll results -

our coaching staff should be close, most were team mates! which impresses me because people say that players leave her hating JR and the Sox and look at the players reunion we have coaching us

I am honored!!!!! And humbled. I owe you a PM, haven't forgotten - go Dolphs, and Go Sox!

I was aware Colon was on the mound every fifth game. Not so sure he played every 5th game....

Excellent job there YAS. One could comment on a point here or there but that would miss the point of the excellence of your overview of the whole.

The question is very specific: do Christians have a moral and/or ethical obligation to forgive those who do them harm and there is only answer: yes. The reason there is only one answer is that the record of what Jesus taught is explicitly clear on this. To answer any other way is to substitute one's own standards for the teachings of Christ. Jesus not only taught that, Jesus lived that dying on the cross: Forgive them. But then again Jesus taught that repeatedly and it is repeated throughout the New Testament. It is the basic of the Lord's Prayer: forgive our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. It is the heart of the Sermon on the Mount. There is no other ethical option or moral option for someone who claims to be a Christian. This is not a matter of theological difference. The Gospel and the whole of the New Testament repeatedly stress the forgiveness that must be given to those who one harm. That is why the Pope (and I am not Catholic) went to personally forgive the man who tried to assassinate him. But again, Jesus on the cross says it all. Nuke, your question should be have you read the Scriptures and will you live by them or just give lip service to the call of Christ. If the commandments of Christ do not govern us in the most extreme of circumstances then they do not govern us at all. One cannot pick and choose when Christ's teachings apply, or that they only apply in minor or lesser circumstances and we can choose when they do not. For the record, murder has touched my family and friends. And when I was run down by a car, as a pedestrian, having had just enough time to shove my son out of the path of the car, I made a point to never learn the name of the driver so I would not be able to be angry and focus anger at the driver during that year of being unable to walk. The choice was not mine. Jesus on the cross leaves us no other choice. Does anyone live that out perfectly? No. That is why we continually pray the Lord's Prayer. That is why we are reminded that if we have something against another we must go and forgive and then come back to the Communion Table. That is why James says if we say we live in the light and yet have hostility and hate in our hearts we are in darkness still. And why Paul and Peter showed repeatedly the grace of forgiving those who did them harm. Why Jesus said what Jesus said the entire night of the betrayal. Etc. Etc. Etc. I sure don't live it perfectly. I struggle with that a lot, a lot. It took me the longest time to work this through with my ex wife for the things that she did. And sometimes with (former) friends or differences within the family, it can be a long haul to reach the point of forgivness. But my inability to live it out perfectly does not eliminate the ethical and moral imperitive I have to do it. I cry for grace so that I might have grace and show grace, that I might live grace and offer grace. When in my vocation I share the call of Christ with others it is always with the inner knowledge that I am the chief of sinners and transgressors and am called ever more to conform my life to the call of Christ. I answer this question with a firm and unequivocal yes keenly aware of my own failings. Thus one turns to Christ all the more. Forgive my sins as I forgive those who have sinned against me. Lord, have mercy. Christ, have mercy. Lord, have mercy. There are very few issues that are so totally clear in the teachings of Christ.

witesoxfan, what are McGriff's stats now in the minors?

excellent point and now we have a chance to get some good home cooking and open up a lead as glorious as the weather has been, should be some great weather for the games

and in fact a vote of confidence with the contract would be perhaps what he needs meanwhile he has playing defense like never before I want Mags signed now

that would be good all I have out here is radio I remember how Jose's hamstring bothered him a few years ago, nagging injury

because someone has to

Jas I pray you are right!

no problem my friend always a good day when we take a series on the road

yeah, now is the time to say that!

someone who used to post here she posts elsewhere saw her opening day, said hi, she looks good as always let past be the past

you just won attached image of the year

he pulled a hamstring and left the game - has anything more been said?

it is not just you

agreed