Controlled Chaos

QUOTE(BuehrleTheAce @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) I watched every single pitch. I didn't go to sleep until 2:30am (East Coast). Got up at 6:30 for work. Yea, I'm doing pretty good today!! Yeah I only got about 3 1/2 hours, but this is the best I ever felt with less than 4 hours sleep. Then again there was that one night with the revlon model... hmm This beats it!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this is a pretty good indicator of the die-hards vs the casual. Of course there are circumstances for some that couldn't be helped, but for the most part if you were a die hard fan...it was just impossible to go to sleep last night without knowing. I would have stayed up all night if I had to. On another note when Blum hit that homer instead of clapping loud, I was punching my hand in to my other hand, cause it wasn't as loud and I nailed my wedding ring with my knuckle.....yeah don't ever do that...it hurts real bad.

QUOTE(mreye @ Oct 26, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) I don't blame the umps either. I've always hated a line instead of a fence for a home run. It just doesn't make a lot of sense especiallt if you're going to have the facade basically the same color as the baseball. It was a tough call and it went against us. That s*** happens to teams all the time in baseball. I just don't like how it was covered on tv compared to how the calls that went for us got covered.

I just couldn't believe it though...I mean I never thought Buck and McCarver were against the Sox...I mean why would they be. I think they're bad announcers, but not neccessarily rooting against the sox. I still don't know if they are rooting against them or anything, but I just can't see how that homerun wasn't discussed more. Every time they showed a game recap and said Lane homerun I f***in cringed. I couldn't believe they wouldn't say "our replays showed that it wasn't the case." Anyway, we overcame it. That's what you do, but call the f***in game the same way for both teams. Don't show me 100 replays of cather interference and dye getting hit and drop third strikes and then show a non homerun once during the game, after the initial replays.

I never felt so good after getting only 3 1/2 hours of sleep. f*** YEAH!!!!!!!!!

I was waiting for everytime Lane stepped to the plate they would say "Lane hit a a ball off the wall which was ruled a homerun, but our replays show that wasn't the case" blah blah blah But everytime Buck said the score and everytime Lane stepped to the plate except for the at bat following the wall ball, it was never mentioned. I couldn't believe it. The sox replays were played and discussed ad nauseum, and they weren't gift run calls...they were just close calls/bad calls that extended an inning. We earned what happened after them. We didn't "get" a run My dad missed the hit and missed his next at bat while he was in the kitchen or somethin.... So when I called him in the 8th, he didn't even know about it. How could they not talk about a homerun that wasn't? Especially when Hermey gave up that double...how could they not say that "run" enabled it to be a tie. I mean really...I don't get it. It's alwasy said a two run lead is a BIG differnce than a one run lead. Well the sox had a one run lead cause of a bad call and if yo umissed the two times they showed it you would have never known. Ridiculous.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Oct 25, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) IIRC, sometime in the mid 90's Steve Perry went solo and the group replaced him with a guy that looked and sounded almost exactly like him. It's like the reality version of rockstar.

I bought the greatest hits CD back in 1991 after spring break. We went to Daytona Beach and for some reason everyone we ran into from other states loved journey. It became like our theme from spring break. I haven't listened to them in years though.... On a side note I saw a cover band ARRA and their lead singer sounded exactly like Steve Perry. haha I found their website and they have mp3's on there..one of them is "Don't Stop Believing" ARRA

I don't think sales are gonna be too good.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 25, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) Do you have an address for the Houston site, by chance? Yeah, I just went to the mlb one looking to see what they were saying about the dye thing and saw that stuff. I don't have an id or anything but you can still read. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/components/fan_foru...ard.html?astros

QUOTE(SpringfieldFan @ Oct 25, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) Done and sent: We don't even know what happened. The only information from one of the people involved(his wife) is "The whole thing got blown out of proportion" Maybe we should have Brooks collect a dollar from everyone and send her a few dozen roses for our terrible fans or even better we can hold a benefit on her behalf. Maybe the Sox can sponsor a workshop on fan behavior. Then everyone will know what really swell fans we are.

The soul of the Sox By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports October 24, 2005 CHICAGO – Everyone by now has heard that the Chicago White Sox, just two games from defeating the Houston Astros to capture their first World Series since 1917, aren't the most popular team in their own city. The Second City's Second Team, everyone says. And everyone is correct. The real reason is simple, of course. The Chicago Cubs have better bars – or at least bigger, brighter, more youthfully cool bars – surrounding their home field. And there are way more of them, too. Some are so close to the action they have seating on their roofs that look into Wrigley Field – Murphy's Bleachers isn't just a cute name; the place has actual bleachers to watch the action. Jimbo's doesn't have anything like that. It is a small, crowded, classic corner bar – 33rd and Princeton – just down the railroad tracks from U.S. Cellular Field, here on the South Side. It's a quintessential neighborhood joint in the Bridgeport neighborhood and most of the people who jammed the place over the weekend for the first two games of the World Series not only know Jimbo's well, but they also know the actual Jimbo. "He's a good guy," said Nick Contos, 50. If you want to know the difference between the Cubs and the White Sox, you just need to know the difference between each team's landmark fan bar – Jimbo's and the Cubby Bear. One is freshly renovated, has an extensive beer selection and features oversized plasma TVs. The other prides itself on an old ball collection. After games, one turns into a dance club; the other turns up the classic rock. One is where poets and journalists feel most at home. The other attracts plumbers and bus drivers. "F--- Wrigleyville," said Terry Lacino, a 38-year-old carpenter, while drinking a Miller at Jimbo's on Saturday. "You think I want some yuppie pissin' on my lawn?" South Side Pride The way Ozzie Guillen's charmed team has played the last three weeks, almost nothing can bother a White Sox fan. Almost. But the city, and its media's (at least perceived) Cubs bias, has come close. "I read all these stories about Cubs and White Sox fans," said Lacino of the spat of World Series inspired coverage. "How come (each) time the writer goes to Wrigleyville and talks to Cubs fans? Why don't they talk to us? What's the (expletive) Cubs got to do with this?" The one thing you do hear about Bridgeport is that it is a working class neighborhood, and that is mostly correct. But that shouldn't be confused with run-down. While parts of the area (especially the farther south of the stadium you go) are certainly increasingly tough, it is much improved since the 2004 razing of the notorious Robert Taylor housing projects. It is your classic city neighborhood, where you know not just the guy down the street but you knew his father, who probably worked with your dad for the city or at the stockyards or at the Butler Street Foundry. It's where Russo's Deli and Fratelini's Pizza have fed generations after Little League games at Armory Park. "It's the best (neighborhood) because it's where I grew up," reasoned John Reilly, a 43-year-old pipe fitter, as he stood on the corner outside Jimbo's on Saturday night while taking the scene in. While it isn't the loft-filled, hip, college-and-young-professional neighborhood around Wrigley, Bridgeport does lay claim as the home of five mayors, including the current Hizzoner, Richard M. Daley. The alleys may be tight and the homes are on top of each other, but many of the older places here have been beautifully renovated, with kept-up yards and tree-lined streets. The north neighborhood is mostly Italian, Irish and Chinese; the south is more African-American and Hispanic. It isn't a coincidence that one reason the White Sox are so beloved is because they are a mix of races – white, black, Hispanic, even Asian. The general manager, Kenny Williams, is a rare black baseball executive. The loveable manager, Guillen, hails from Venezuela. "Black people don't go to Wrigleyville," said J.T. Williams, a 40-year-old African-American, as he stood outside a house off 38th Street where a Game 1 viewing party was being held. "No one wants to say it. But I'm saying it." Black people do go to Cubs games, of course. Just not in the numbers they do for the White Sox. Really, it is South Side people of all colors who steer clear of Wrigleyville. "I never go up there," said Reilly, who is white. Historic neighborhood "This is just pretty much a hardcore, blue-collar neighborhood," Contos said. "It's real down to earth. Many of these people hand down their buildings from generation to generation. Their great grandparents moved here in the 1800s, (and) they built the subways, the roads. These people were the backbone of Chicago." In contrast, Wrigleyville attracts the young professionals who move to the city for high-paying jobs. Many of them attended Northwestern or DePaul and stuck around. "Wrigleyville is mostly people from Nebraska who take the train to work downtown," mocked Contos. "These are true (White Sox) fans in this neighborhood." True fans, indeed. The Sox may not have won it all in 88 years, but seemingly every house and every apartment has a pennant or a sign in the window. Some Cubs fans may have jumped on the White Sox bandwagon, reasoning they will root for any Chicago team. No one here could envision a scenario they would ever root for the Cubs, though. "Never," Williams said. "Never. Never." Over the weekend, as their team finally played in the Series, Bridgeport was crowded with friends and families at block parties and picnics. Fathers brought their children. Children brought their fathers. And a lot of them wound up at Jimbo's, or a dozen humble places just like it, to watch the game, to grab an Old Style, to witness history and to share in the warmth of the neighborhood on a cold, grey, wet day. There wasn't a dance club or martini joint in sight. "This is the best," said Lacino with a nod. Wrigleyville it isn't. And isn't that just perfect.

Just an FYI for anyone who cares. I wanted a World Series program and figured I was SOL when I didn't get a ticket to the game. Last night I went to Jewel and they had a huge display case with them. $15.00.

Man, I just can't imagine this. I couldn't imagine someone pulling a lady's hair and I can't imagine who the hell just slaps a lady like that. I read in the sun times today She "feels the whole thing got blown out of proportion,'' Could this have been a guy clapping right by her and rubbing it in and his hand hit her or something?? I can't see someone slapping my wife in the head and her saying "it's blown out of proportion" unless she knew it was unintentional. The article goes on with this crap Now I went to Houstons board yesterday to see what they were saying and with the exception of the "class" comment the others were all made by a user named "cubfan" Don't you think that should have been noted? Something like "A despondent cub fan wasn't going to miss this opportunity to take a shot saying blah blah blah" Either that or take it for what it is and not include it in the article. But no...there it is...A cub fan saying we are a lower class of people and the park is not a safe place to bring your family. Now if it's noted who made the post, a lot of people will consider the source, but since it isn't a lot will believe it. Sad. By the way, I'm not defending the fan here. Clearly he was an obnoxious asshole and probably deserved to be put to the wall or whatever, but if this wasn't intentional slapping and pulling hair that should at least be noted.

There was an article in the paper last week where Paulie's dad said the hometown discount is gone. That Paul would love to stay in chicago, but they're going to have to pay now or something along those lines. I think it was from the Sun times...maybe someone can find it.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) "Official Brad Lidge Walk-off HR section"

If it was only worth a few grand...then I would keep it or give it back to the player for a bat or what not. If we're talking like 5 or 6 digits then that's a whole new story. My livelihood comes first. Let's see..... some extra money for your downpayment on a house or kids college or new car OR making a millionaire stranger happy. I'd sell it....call me greedy.

Astros GM once loved the White Sox Oct. 24, 2005, 1:41AM Purpura, born near Windy City, and dad were loyal Chicago fans By NEIL HOHLFELD Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle CHICAGO - Tim Purpura stood in the Astros dugout down the first-base line at U.S. Cellular Field, watching a cold rain fall three hours before Game 2 of the World Series. He was asked if he would have sat in the nasty weather to watch the Chicago White Sox if they were playing in a World Series 35 or so years ago when Purpura was growing up in the south suburbs of Chicago. "Are you kidding? I'd find a way to be there no matter what I had to do," said Purpura, 47. "This is nothing. I've sat at Soldier Field watching the Bears in the middle of a snowstorm or when it was 15 below zero. "It's a badge of courage in this city. You learn to layer. And a lot of people learn to stay lubricated" Purpura grew up a die-hard White Sox fan in Oak Lawn, Ill., about 15 miles south of the land where U.S. Cellular Field is today. His father, Jim, who died 14 years ago, took him to 25 to 30 games a season when Tim was growing up. Purpura said his father went to a 1959 World Series game between the White Sox and Los Angeles Dodgers at Comiskey Park, which stood adjacent to the site of the current park on the South Side, and brought home a program for his son. "I've renounced my (White Sox) citizenship, and most of my family has, too," said Purpura. "I've got a limo full of aunts and uncles coming to the game tonight (Sunday), and they'll all root for the Astros. "The free tickets might have something to do with it, I'm sure" White Sox wedding When Purpura and his wife, Shari, were married, they posed for one wedding photo wearing White Sox caps, just as Purpura's mom and dad did. On the day before the 2005 World Series began, Purpura stared wistfully over the top of U.S. Cellular Field and wondered what his father might make of all this. "He was a White Sox fan his whole life," said Purpura. "He taught me to love the game of baseball. I'm sure he's looking down with a big grin on his face right now" Purpura said his love of sports was nurtured during his childhood in a family of five children. Another factor was living in a city that loves sports. He went to Bears games, Northwestern football games, Blackhawks hockey games, and, of course, White Sox games. "One of the great things about this town is that everybody loves sports," said Purpura. "When we grew up, we played every sport all year long. There were no video games. "I've got some friends who are coming here tonight that I went to high school with, and we still talk about the 1976 Catholic League championship game that was played at Soldier Field. We all remember every bit of it" One black sheep Purpura said he knows of at least one holdout from his family. A younger cousin let Purpura know he wasn't switching allegiances from the White Sox to the Astros. "I wasn't able to get him tickets for the games here," said Purpura. "He jumped in his car and is driving to Houston with his family. He made it very clear to me that even though my aunts and uncles have changed allegiance, he is still a White Sox fan. "My wife is kind of handling all the tickets, and she told him she couldn't put him with the rest of the family if he wasn't going to cheer for the Astros. We told him we'd put him in the upper tank (deck) somewhere, but if you still want to drive to Houston, you can"

Who the heck pulls hair? This is strange beyond reason...Why the heck would anyone pull someone's hair? I mean really...I can't even invision the drunkest of the drunk thinking...."it will be funny to pull her hair." Idiot!!!!!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 24, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) I like the play because Aaron was erring on the side of aggresion. Most players go halfway and retreat to first after the ball is caught. Instead Aaron was making sure that what he thought was going to be an out, was going to be productive. He was makings sure that he was going to get into second base and into scoring position come hell or high water. It is a split second judgement call that has to be made quickly, and as one of the best CFs in the game today, I trust his judgement on if he thinks an OF can get to a ball or not. I liked the play also. I see how it can go either way, but I don't see how all the analysts were so sure to say Aaron was wrong. If that ball was caught, him tagging there would have been a huge play. I was saying last night. His thinking was no matter what I am getting into scoring postion on this play. If he catches it, he is gettin there, if he drops it he is gettin there, if it goes yard...then who gives a s***. I thought it was a good play....

Bobby is fine...He didn't come in there tossing cookies. The plate did shrink a bit there in the 9th and he is a lot more effective when he has a strike on a batter. He did lose a bit of velocity, but dam people, it was cold and wet. He will be bringing it in Houston if giving the chance. He may be a rookie, but he has shown he can handle the pressure. Bagwell is no slouch. He saw 6 pitches the night before and hit a single in the 6th pitch of his at bat last night. Then Bobby K's Lane and walks Burke on four straight pitches, a couple of questionable balls to say the least. Then Ausmus with that god dam squibbler which moves up the runners. That was just some bad luck. He made a great pitch. If its hit anywhere else, inning over or at the least the runners don't both advance. Bobby wants to get ahead on Vizcaino so he throws a strike and Vizcaino hits it. s*** happens, but I don't think it was a bad outing by Bobby and I definitely don't think we should switch it up and look for Dustin to close now. Bobby has got the stuff....physically and mentally!! The only thing I didn't like was giving Viz a good pitch to hit. I understand why he did it, but a pinch hitter is almost always swinging at the first pitch. Use that to your advantage and throw something out of the zone.

What a nooB.... http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41787

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Oct 20, 2005 -> 10:12 AM) Crap...I need it in 5. I'm having a Halloween Party type of thing on the 29th. I'm also having a halloween bash...but I told everyone it may turn into a game 6 bash as well!!!! I'll be hanging an astro dressed guy from my roof.... Relax...Not a real astro fan...but a dummy one. Pun intended

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) That would be awesome, but from the sounds of it, it isn't going to happen. I wish because I would definately go. The sox should open up the BP bar. Charge a cover and donate the money to Sox Charities