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Do they do that a lot in the NL? That is walk the bases loaded to make the other manager pinch hit for a stud pitcher? I thought that was a silly move and BOOM BAM, grand slam. I watch AL not NL. Is that pretty common what the Dodgers did?

Hey I was told to put negative Hillary stuff in the Republican thread, so here's an article on the wikileaks on CNN "Clinton collected at least $1.8 million for at least eight speeches to big banks." LOL Good work if you can get it, wink wink.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 04:04 AM) yep religion just ruins the world. It offers nothing yet people murder each other and fight each other over it all the time. Some would disagree that it "offers nothing." A lot of smart people are religious and believe in God. People murder each other and fight each other about a lot of things. I disagree pretty much with your post.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 03:45 AM) And this is why I just have no interest in going to church. It's definitely an interesting phenomenon, the denying of communion thing. This is good, though. The current pope wants this practice stopped. http://deadstate.org/pope-francis-demotes-...ce-politicians/

I love Brother Rice football. Does that make me a bad man? I'm afraid Rice is the same this year as always. Damn good, damn exciting but can't beat a fundamentally sound team like Loyola. Loyola by 21. Then if we have to play on the road I don't like our chances in the stacked playoffs. I predict Rice wins the Prep Bowl this year.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 03:24 AM) My wife's whole family is catholic and also lifelong democrats. Thing is ... technically if we as Catholics vote for Clinton over Trump since one is pro abortion and the other anti, we could be denied Communion if our votes were public. Also, Kaine could be denied communion if he got in the line in which the bishop who ripped him was distributing communion. Kaine is unable to receive communion because of his public stance that is pro choice on this issue.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 09:11 PM) Greg, how can you actually be for Jesse Ventura when he stated he would never stand for the playing of the national anthem again? He claimed in 2011 that would raise his fist in the air ala Smith and Carlos in the 1968 Olympics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura See third paragraph, political criticisms. He served in the military though. So if he wants to protest, fine. I watched him on youtube saying he loves Colin for his stance cause we all have the right to free speech. I am against kneeling or sitting during the anthem, sure I am. But more than anything I was mad at the fact Colin was putting all the attention on himself in a team sport and I thought that was incredibly selfish and if I were the owner I'd be PISSED. Also I am standing up for the military who treat the anthem with such respect.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Oct 16, 2016 -> 12:58 AM) 1)I doubt Trump is actually pro-life. 2)12 years of Catholic school here, and I was not offended. I actually agree that there's a faction of Catholics that are as fundamentally nutty religious as any other fundamentalist religions. I was just reading our local Catholic newspaper and the bishop here was blasting Tim Kaine for being pro choice. He really laid into Kaine, who went to Rockhurst High School in KC which is Jesuit. It's funny how everybody is picking the "lesser of two evils" this election and we Catholics apparently believe Trump is the lesser of two evils because of the all-important abortion issue. This is serious stuff to Catholics.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) Yes. And if you want to go advance your foolish, uneducated conspiracy theories from Fox Insider, that's literally what the Republican thread is for. That's why we made it, to the letter. You're taking Republican Conspiracy theories from the #1 Republican news source and wondering why the Democrats don't want to hear it any more. Go wallow in the other thread with your conspiracy garbage. We've got work to do over here making this a better country and world. Don't mean to fight. But I'll get this straight. If my post is about a Democrat (Hillary) but is negative or extremely negative, I should put it in the Republican thread. But if a post is about a Republican (Trump) and is negative, put it in the Republican thread or the Democrat thread cause there are posts in here about how bad Trump is too. I think I've got it down pat. Just trying to figure out the rules and stay out of trouble on here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) Get the F*** out of the Democratic Thread with Fox News Insider links. Seriously, there's a thread next door for Sean Hannity and Fox Insider conspiracy theories. Go make the country a mess over there, we are building a better one. Wow, such anger at me when these threads are all mixed and matched and not just by me. Also those stories were about Hillary and she is a Democrat, geez.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 07:43 PM) I'm not familiar with Milwaukee politics but how did Sheriff Clarke ever get elected? He's advocating violence on his twitter feed. He's against black lives matter. Hmmm.... this man says it's all fixed and he's former Milkwaukee sheriff. Our country is a mess, folks. Hillary supporters can celebrate her victory but it doesn't mean she is fit. All these issues mentioned by the sheriff could have turned into huge scandals, but instead all the focus is on Cosby, I mean Trump. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/12/sher...-clinton-donald and this one http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/11/megh...same-laws-we-do

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 03:30 PM) We also still have the majority of Americans getting their coverage through non- exchange plans, so while the struggles the exchanges are seeing in some states aren't good, it's not the total destruction of the private health insurance industry. Yes but the non exchange plans are getting more expensive every single day and covering less and less. It's a joke, actually. And ... despite all this, many industries are daily concocting ways to cut workers, get rid of workers. Why? They don't want to pay for health care for employees so they are cutting, cutting, cutting. It's very sad. Health care indeed is killing Americans. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) There is the "intent" of the law, and then there is the intent of the law. I have no doubt the government won't be content just controlling insurance, they then will want to control medication distribution and the actual practice of medicine, that they they can control "costs" to save us all. Probably. And yet so many on here are supporting fully and heavily the big government party over and over.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) I could too although he has some rigid religious beliefs he needs to punt. Speaking of religion, Hillary would be in trouble if this were 30 years ago. I saw a video on youtube that had a priest in the church saying it was a serious sin if we vote for Hillary. She is pro choice and Trump is pro life. Interesting that they are officially saying it's a sin to vote for Hillary when the other side is pro life. Catholics today don't abide by the rules so it's no big deal, but like I said, years ago ... wow, she'd not get a single Catholic vote. She also offended all catholics in the leaked emails, but it's getting no publicity.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 15, 2016 -> 05:19 PM) I've never seen an article that felt so close to an Onion satire piece turn out to be so scary...tough/er times lie ahead before these people just go away. Every day, something more and more outlandish. It's starting to sound like the plot from Designated Survivor. Don't get mad at me for merely pointing out we could be hearing something outlandish each day about the Clintons if the media wanted to go there. They don't ... at this time. My educated guess is they will probably a year into her presidency for about 18 months before gearing up to support her re-election bid. Like Trump, Clintons have a lot of red flags had the media chosen to go that way. Since the FBI decided to save her, it's been all Trump all the time.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 09:18 PM) Screaming we're all screwed doesn't accomplish much. There are things we can do, but we have to swallow the fact there is going to be some financial pain for us to build a better future for our kids and the next generation. That being said, the terrible leaders we keep electing will likely do nothing with this "financial pain", and possibly even make things worse than they are today. This is what happens when you elect incompetent people. Ultimately, we have to ask, does suffering this financial pain in the short term actually equate to anything? Or do they squander it and skim money off of it like Chicago did, which took one of the highest overall tax rates (when you combine property, sales, sticker costs, fees, etc.) and squandered it all to the point the City ended up with nothing but a nice lakefront and loads of debt they can't (or won't) repay? If we want to fix this, we have to start by electing competent leaders -- and there are probably less than 10 of them (combined) in the entire House/Senate at this point -- and then start gutting the system as we know it. Raising taxes with the current idiots we have running the country will likely write a law filled with pork and squander every penny of that money before it reaches the system it was meant to fix. f*** it, you're right. We're all screwed. Because I have NO faith the American voters will start electing competent politicians anytime soon. QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 09:31 PM) The problem is the politicians don't feel like they can stay in office by enacting these changes, because their terms aren't long enough to see the positive impacts of the temporary pain. It isn't unlike a GM who trades away his farm system because he needs to win now to keep his job. You both make EXCELLENT points! My take is we have to change the system radically in terms of partisanship. And it's impossible to do that EXCEPT if our government allowed/required all government jobs to be filled by one Demo and one Repub. For instance secretary of state (have 2 of 'em; one Demo one Repub). Anybody hired to lead a committee on health care reform (one Demo, one Repub). For instance didn't Bill Clinton put Hillary in charge of health care reform way back when? Nobody wanted to work with her. Obamacare?? Had NO support cause nobody on the Repub side was gonna support it. They are way too selfish. We've got to work TOGETHER and face it. We'll NEVER work together. Like I said earlier the state of Kansas is gonna vote Trump in. We vote Brownback in twice. Cause of the letter R. It's sickening. We CANT cooperate as a country to get things done. And health care is gonna kill us all.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) Stop it. I wasn't talking about Soxtalk. I meant it. You start calling people "pretty" or "beautiful" or "ugly" you are just asking for trouble in America 2016. That's all I meant about that. Like if you saw a person at work and said, 'Hi. You look beautiful today." I think you "might" actually get in trouble with HR. Don't go there. That's all I meant.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 09:50 PM) First, stop calling it "free". Second, yes, the system is bad, and becoming worse. Insurance for many is largely useless these days. Now, if you want to have the single payer system conversation, be prepared to be realistic about it, and get ready for some financial pain. Get ready for WAY higher taxes than you pay now. That's the trade off. And I'm talking 50+% for everyone, across the board. And even at those tax rates, I doubt it would cover the expenses necessary to continue care as it is, AND overhaul the entire system. If the government takes over the HC industry, they will have to cap wages, prices and drug prices at all once. Doctors, regardless of their speciality, won't be making 650k per year any longer, and big pharma will see tumbling profits to an insane degree. There will be a lot of hurt and pain for us adults for a long while. Keep in mind the US Govt can't even run the VA, and anyone that says they can is just sticking the head in the sand. The VA is terrible, and it's small fry in comparison to how big this takeover would be. In the end, even if they went to single payer -- and I believe they have too -- it'll be MANY years before anyone reaps the benefits of it... What are we going to do? Nesteggs are gone in one 3 day trip to the hospital. We're all doomed. What do we do??? I'm bipartisan on this. We're all screwed.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 03:16 PM) My "new" health insurer for 2016 is dropping from the exchange now and is no longer offering my plan in 2017. Great. Either keep paying more or start finding sub-par doctors for my kids. How can companies drop from the exchange? I thought it was law? Folks ... our health care system is SO BAD that I see one of two solutions. a.) Either go to a government run system where everybody gets free health care (I know, heaven forbid we do such a thing! It will cause more problems; it will take months to see a doctor!) or b.) the new president has to name one Demo and one Republican (how about Carter and McCain or Bill Clinton and Dole) as head of a healtcare committee to get us a system that remains open market but actually works. (I know, fat chance in f***ing hell we can work together on something so important). Folks ... health care is a disaster. We're in trouble as a nation with the current costs, the current Obamacare system as well. See, this issue is why our once great country will never be great again. We CANT go non partisan on this issue. We CANT work together cause we don't work together. And this issue is a downright embarrassment to our country. Our health care system is disgusting. The costs??? Like out of a horror movie. What's one night in the hospital now? 20,000 bucks? What's an Xray or MRI cost? 1,000 bucks?? HELP us Dear Lord, Help us.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 08:10 PM) Although this is from a year ago, a pretty interesting take on the Drumpf phenomenon. That was interesting. I agree with this line in there: "Similarly, Trump is able to take advantage of the obvious dysfunction of the traditional political system." The wrestling analogy was great. My take has always been people are done with traditional politicians and their say nothing rhetoric. Hence the primary love of Trump and Bernie (til the DNC whacked him and the super delegate thing whacked him). But now that we get closer to Election Day ... even though people want to be done with traditional politicians they are softening their stance since Donald is such a dick in his personal life. It's a bit too much. Like somebody said he's turned into a loudmouth version of Bill Cosby (Cosby is scum but he's been silent as a mouse, not bragging about those misdeeds every day).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 07:55 PM) Trump set himself up for all these women to come out of the woodwork, whether they are lying or not, he boasted about doing exactly what they are accusing him of doing. If it wasn't such an embarrassment to our country, it actually would be very funny. How can Trump ever be credible? It's one lie after another. He donated to 9/11 charities, except he didn't. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/nyc-audit-finds-n...topstories.html He was boasting not too long ago how he would be maybe the first candidate who made money running for president. I think he may be one of the few who wind up totally ruined by doing it. Yeah, today's story is he mocked Marlie Matlin (sp)'s deafness saying she was retarded when she was on The Apprentice. You guys hate me and blast me for saying Trump is a 1 percenter, an elitist, out there to line his own pockets and nobody else's and rake in as much pleasure as possible, but I think that truly describes who he is. Many (most?) rich f***s are like that. Bill Gates seems to be one who really truly donates a lot to charity and may not be a complete dick. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 08:06 PM) Is he insinuating what I think he is? via He insinuates all the time whether he thinks a woman is hot enough to bone or not.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 11, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) Except the Braves made the playoffs 14 consecutive years....the White Sox have never even managed to go back to back in their much longer franchise history. And Braves' fans have had a number of seasons to enjoy since that string ended as well. Not to mention two new stadiums in the past 20 years. Boom. This thread blew up early. Can't argue with Caulfield here.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) They lost 25 more games because they traded a 40 year old Jerry Koosman? That's a bit of a stretch even for you. You'd think they'd have learned and kept Buehrle for the same reason. Mark's style of pitching is what all starters should try to copy. Work fast, move the ball around. I worship Sale but watching Mark pitch was watching a quick-working arteest (artist). Never shoulda let Buehrle go.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) To me, it's another indication they aren't rebuilding. The rotation will be Sale, Quintana, Rodon, Gonzalez, and Shields...and they'll find a way to not make the playoffs again. You are probably right. Would be nice to either fix Shields or get rid of him. I'd say get rid of him. Look at poor Danks. We didn't try to fix him, figured he was toast. It'll be the same with Shields I bet. He's done. That's not a bad top four. We're still going to need a MUCH BETTER bullpen cause except for Sale and Q we'll have to cover the final 3 innings with Rodon, Gonzo and Shields. That's scary cause our bullpen just reeks. It has ever since Joe Morgan opened his mouth and that was a LONG time ago.

QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) Michelle Obama is actually a better, more effective public speaker than her husband. It's just that it's rare that we actually see her doing it. There was a post on Facebook saying to put "like" if you agree Michelle is the most beautiful classy first Lady ever. I wasn't going to go there and comment either way. In this day and age it might be an insult calling someone beautiful, I'm not sure. I do like her though and I like Barack's personality very much. Just not his work.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 06:05 AM) Greg, I appreciate your honest reply. While I do believe Trump winning is unlikely, there have been "unlikely" events that have occurred in history that have resulted in terrible things. Many of those events occurred because people sat on the sidelines and didnt ever believe "it could get that bad." Who knows what will happen with Hillary, but I believe it likely will be the status quo. Which in reality, is all we need. There is something fundamentally broken in Congress, where "compromise" has become a bad thing. Our country is being taken over by the extreme, because they have the loudest voices, they are the ones that show up no matter. So we end up pandering to them, in a sick cycle where the minority extreme dictates the course for everyone. Every issue isnt some sort of end all war, but thats what they make it. Instead of starting with "What can we agree on?" they start with "we will never give in." They would rather destroy everything than come up with a solution that may require a small sacrifice by both sides. As to how did the Republican's let it get there? Because they didnt think Trump really could do it. So some sat on the sidelines, some of them voted for Trump out of protest and maybe even some voted for Trump in an attempt to cripple the Republican's chances in the general election. But again, instead of the Republican candidates sacrificing themselves, they all went for their own glory. That is, until it was too late. Because what they never predicted was that the minority extreme, would show up. And while the rest of the Republican field split all of their votes among an insane amount of candidates, the extreme all went for Trump. So here we are. And I am not going to tell anyone how to vote. The greatness and terribleness of a democracy/republic is that we are all entitled to vote for whoever we want for whatever reason we want. All I can say is that not standing up to evil, is evil. For thousands of years humans have been trampled and destroyed so that we could have the privilege of living in this nation and it is extremely offensive that people of this country parade around signs saying "Make America great again." Because the underlying implication is that somehow America was better when not everyone was equal, when there were Americans struggling to have the same rights just because of their race, gender, religion, orientation. To me there is nothing great to go back to. All we can do is try and create a country where the lowest of the low have a chance to become the highest of the high. That may mean that we have to give up something, that we have to pay taxes that are "unfair", that some people may "game" the system. But so what, nothing is ever truly "even" or really "fair." But at least we live in a country where I am not going to worry that I will wake up tonight with a black hood coming down over my face, because I dared to disagree, because I am not one of the "majority." And there is no price that can be put on that. Well you are making very good points. That is probably a good point that my vote of Ventura is not making sure (in theory cause Kansas will vote Republican no matter what) evil stays out of the White House. As much as I despise Hillary I do have to concede she is not "evil" in the true sense of the word. Like you said it is more apt to be status quo which I happen to not like (I dont like what have happened to my medical benefits, the economy and buddies getting laid off, what I deem racial problems and problems with police, etc.) but status quo like you said is OK compared to a truly evil man becoming president. You do make good points. If I re-read your post 1,000 times I could start to hate Hillary less I would think. I like your comments on gridlock in Congress as well. I don't like what's happened and I appreciate your statements on that subject as well. QUOTE (Tony @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 02:22 PM) Greg, Here is the biggest problem. If you really read what most of us have said, we agree with a lot of this. There HAVE not been a ton of posts actually supporting Hillary Clinton. It's been more bashing her opponent, which is justified. You're right. This election is between a .050 hitter and a .150 hitter. It's unacceptable. But it is what it is. You can try and be cute and talk about Jesse Ventura, but it means nothing. Congrats, your vote will mean nothing. Are you looking for praise from everyone? I just don't know why you crave negative Hillary articles so badly. You see what you want to see, and don't take anything else in. We pile on because you're no different than a talking head on CNN that's pulling for one side. Someone will present a rational point to a claim, and your response didn't hear any of it, just rehashed the same old argument you've been making for months. Why even have the discussion if you aren't going to listen? Again, actually read what people write, and stop getting all your news from talk radio and right-wing conservatives. Expand your base, look at things for all angles. You'll hear a lot of different opinions, not just what Rush and Lumpy Hannity have to say... That's a good post as well. I do agree there have not been a lot of posts supporting Hillary, most bashing the other side. I guess I would prefer Soxtalkers actually show me WHY they support Hillary. And what makes them happy she's to become President besides hatred of Trump. But you make good points as well. Its not as if many Soxtalkers have flat out said, "I'm choosing the lesser of the two evils." And you are right about me and Jesse V. It does sadden me my vote in that scenario means nothing. I guess I can take solace in the fact it truly won't matter in this goshforsaken political state of Kansas where Trump will win easily cause of the R. QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Oct 14, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) Until a couple of years ago, Hillary Clinton was recognized by most people as an ordinary Democratic politician with pretty standard Democratic positions on most issues, and a public voting record that backs this up. The criticism of her from the left was mainly her hawkishness on foreign policy (the main reason she lost the primary to Obama) and some black liberals had started going after her for 90s era "tough on crime" laws that significantly increased the prison population, and some hard feelings from how she ran her campaign against Obama in 2008. Again, this is pretty ordinary politician stuff. The vast majority of the right's criticism of her was nonsensical conspiracy theories that nobody took seriously outside of talk radio and some Fox News pundits. Then she announced she was running for president (actually very low key, she just released a video where she was barely even the focus) and this started to change. The left's criticism of her got really exaggerated and she turned into this red-handed racist Lady Macbeth who is the most corrupt political figure in American history, who is eager to sell everyone out to the banks and send every black person to prison. Bernie Sanders started gaining momentum on her and then because they really wanted to grasp onto any reason to vote against her, many of his supporters started co-opting right-wing talking points against her, so for the first time you had liberals talking about Benghazi, Vince Foster, murder conspiracies, other fake scandals, and obsessed with e-mails. The Wikileaks stuff just makes it worse, because almost nobody ever actually reads those in full context, so they will see whatever they want to see in them. That's how we got to where we are now. I'm really tired of hearing about it, honestly. I'm tired of false equivalences made between Clinton and Trump. Clinton has thousands and thousands of words about policy you're free to scrutinize but are otherwise serious policy proposals, Trump might be the single worst presidential nominee this country has ever produced who doesn't even have actual plans for the very little policy he actually DOES propose. They're not the same. The choice isn't hard. Your choices are a run-of-the-mill Democrat and an insane person. That's another pretty good post. My contention has been Trump stands no chance so the real issue is how bad is Hillary Clinton going to be? These were good posts. I can't argue them much at all. I give them all A's. I will not end this thread blasting her. I do think the next couple weeks before the election could really be ugly. I'm not looking forward to it.