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QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Greg has two qualifications for whether a player is great or horses***. 1: Were they on the 2005 White Sox? If yes, the player is great and will always be great and should be re-signed and given whatever amount of money for however many years they want. If they were not, they are horses***. 2: Are they a current Kansas City Royals player. If yes, the player is great and the Sox should trade for or sign him as a FA no matter the cost and comp picks attached. If the player does join the Sox, the player no longer meets one of the two qualifications and instantly becomes horses***. There are obvious exceptions to every rule, but this is my general thoughts about Greg's player evaluation from the years I've been on this board. I don't know where you got the Royals part of this equation. I'm sure some board regulars would back me up in that I despise the Royals players and do not want them on the Sox. The only Royals I might want on the Sox are Perez, obviously, plus Holland and I guess Shields, though Shields is overrated right now IMO. I don't want Butler, don't want Moose, or Hosmer, etc. I don't want any of their starters except Ventura. Seriously, how did you miss so badly on part two of your two part answer? I do love the 2005 Sox, but that's not a fair assertion either. As far as Webb, the stats you guys provided me show me promise, thank goodness. I do think he's been a flameout in games that have been close this year. He's failed a ton of times. If he has potential, great, I could be mistaken. He's angered/saddened me many times this year, though.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 03:50 AM) Wasn't referring to you. I was talking about the average person who isn't on a Sox message board and just looks at the stats in the paper, etc. No problem. This current bullpen blows so bad it freaks me out. I know Hahn was counting on Nate Jones and Lindstrom, but like you wrote, Lindstrom wasn't all that. And I never liked Nate. Webb has been miserable. I just feel Reed was better than average at closing out games and Hahn doesn't take enough crap for some of his bad moves. This one right now has hurt this year's team. Somebody will probably find an advanced stat to say our record would only be a couple games better with a good bullpen. I say b.s. to that. Anybody with eyes can see the bullpen has been total buzzkill, wrecking a possible WC season. Just my two cents.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 04:43 PM) He's also choking up on the bat ever so slightly when he gets to 2 strikes. Good for him, if he's doing that. He's the kind of hitter who needs the advice of a hitting coach. Hopefully he's listening to the Sox instructor and that's the reason for his current success. I have no problems with Flowers right now. He'll probably go 0-for-September and finish with a .220 average and people (me and others) will think he's the worst thing ever, but right now he's the least of the Sox problems.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 01:54 AM) I can't imagine what the meathead, casual fan thinks of the Reed for Davidson trade when all they do is look at Reed's save total and Davidson's .198 average in AAA. Me and the guy on All in The Family. We "meatheads." Of course I hate the trade. The Sox truly could use Reed. And Davidson is horrid and the Sox have gotten a great year out of another 3B, Gillaspie, who looks like Wade Boggs, Jr. If Gillaspie could develop some power to go with the liners, he'd be quite a story. Why are we meatheads for HATING that trade? QUOTE (JoshPR @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 02:15 AM) Hahn needs to put bellyflop on waivers right now..... Best post of thread. It's DFA time again for a member of the White Sox. Shelve him like Downs.

Sad to see an exciting comeback like that wasted because of Hahn's horrid bullpen. That's the kind of game a .500 team wins at home. You come back and grab the lead, then you finish the deal. Sox can't finish s*** this year cause of the stiffs in the bullpen. Sad. Kudos to Beckham for a nice offensive game. Occasionally he does things the right way like going to right field and guess what Gordon? It works. He just doesn't do that near enough. Ditto Tank. Both need to get a fricking clue cause they both have talent. Horrific defeat against a lousy team, though. Sox bullpen hacks wasted a helluva comeback tonight.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) Butler is gone. But do we really need another bases-clogging RH hitter? If we can get him for $6-8 million per year and control his rights for at least 2 years, then maybe. But a one year deal and then losing him to FA doesn't help the Sox at all, since he wouldn't be around in 2016. Butler is done. Age hit him and he has no HR power and like you said is very slow. And if he's only 6-8 million, he'll stay in KC for that.

QUOTE (1dog @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 05:37 AM) I'll buy him a beer, he saved me like 1k for not allowing that wild pitch to get past and for the runner to score to make it 10-9. I stupidly bet sox runline. Woohoo Nice job.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 04:58 AM) Petricka found the fastball there! Nice win, great to see the offense show up. The presence of Abreu usually eliminates corpseball. He's contagious (except for Gordon).

Great win. Abreu the newcomer, Paulie the oldie but goodie and Flowers the guy who ain't dead yet, pleased me tonight.

Huge crowd. Fans loving this game.

If Big Papi II homers here I might cry.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 04:54 AM) One more out to go. Best defense is strike 1. Then strike 2. Arcia the batter. Ain't it the truth.

Crowd into it. Nice pitch on the inside corner. Two out.

This lefty scares me. Double to corner coming? Throw that pitch again, baby.

He was off the base at second. Maybe?

That was a hittable meatball, folks.

There's no way in hell Petricka gets the save after this beginning. Bring in somebody else.

Ridiculous. All those runs by the Sox and Twins come right back? Get him out of there. Can Quintana pitch now?? Half kidding.

Ooops. Tie game coming up? Willingham up.

Sox in big trouble. Two on nobody out.

He's safe by an eyelash. Bummer.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 2, 2014 -> 04:39 AM) I'm going to copy this quote for if he ends up with below a 600 OPS next year, haha. No matter what happens to him I can't deny he kept plugging and got his average to .250 in August of 2014. I'm still thinking about that blast he hit over the foul pole just a tad foul on the last homestand.

DeAza. Very nice base hit there. Good job, sir. Can you imagine if that last one woulda cleared the fence? No excuses, closer. Get through the Twins in the ninth. This game needs to be OVA soon.

OMG, what a great game! Tyler Flowers, you deserve some postgame beer! I'm starting to respect Tyler Flowers. He never quit this season! f***in A.

Cmon Tyler. Give those fans a thrill!