JoeC

Now, assuming this is a true Hahn hire, I'm giving Hahn 2 years. Give him full control and autonomy in decisions, and if he fails, fire him. Nevermind - didn't read beyond the headlines / twitter posts.... Espada ain't coming.

Yeah, I'm not sure when it changed. Back when I was playing competitively (~'06), it was a hybrid. By the time I started diving headfirst into coaching in like 2010, all of the formal education was centered around dynamic warm-ups. What I've been taught is that flexibility is good, but static stretching to increase overall flexibility is not correlated with injury prevention if done right before activity / competition. It's another physical attribute to work on, but pregame ain't the time to do it. ...but again, I'd defer to @ptatc.

I guess my point is that flexibility is just one piece. Strength is also important, and mechanics are also important. Yes, it's easier to prevent a hamstring / groin injury than an ACL tear. However, my point of contention is that joint injuries (ligaments, meniscus, etc.) ARE preventable with the proper protocols. To dismiss them as just being freak / inevitable things (as you seemed to do with Kopech's meniscus tear in your original post) is, at best, only partially accurate. FYI, I've been in athletics my entire life (college hockey, coaching hockey competitively at the youth national level, collegiate levels, etc.)... and what you're saying makes sense... to a point. Yes, I'm aware of the benefits of partner stretching... but that sort of flexibility / stretching has proven to be useless when used as preparation for pre-competition (it's best to warm your muscles up through dynamic stretching and gentle full-range loading). Back to my original point.... non-contact joint injuries are, by and large, preventable, so I don't agree that Kopech's knee injury is an unpreventable aberration, especially once you contextualize it against his own personal injury experiences + his teammates' myriad injuries. I'm of the opinion that Kopech's knee injury is a product of both his injury proneness (probably greatly exacerbated by fitness regimens) as well as the Sox's medical staff's shortcomings.

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Also, no - people don't criticize non-contact knee injuries... but that doesn't mean that it's not preventable. I've reviewed tons of strength and conditioning protocols (in-season and off-season... though mostly for sports like hockey and soccer), and there's a huge emphasis specifically on knee injury prevention. A lot of the prevention is emphasized around ligament protection (like ACL tears), but things like meniscus protection aren't far removed from those same protocols. Again, this is where I want @ptatcto chime in....

Also, CC Sabathia. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35502136/ Apparently knees are a common injury for pitchers, but correlated with mechanics.

Yeah sure - contact injuries aren't all that preventable, but in this case, Kopech's injury wasn't really a contact injury, was it?

That said, I'd defer to @ptatc

I disagree there. Strength and flexibility of the supporting muscles around the knee, along with preventing excess strain on the knee through (in his case as a pitcher) proper landing mechanics, can prevent knee injuries. Sure you can't account for everything, but knee injuries are preventable, at least the "wear-and-tear" types of ones, and also meniscus tears (typically caused by excessive torqueing / twisting).

Well, at least they've got one thing going for them, it sounds like....

At this point, i hope Cleveland wins it all.

Ozzie is pretty confident that he knows who the next manager is. JR seems egotistical enough to hire Ozzie to prove Ozzie's prediction wrong.

If Benetti is gone, we need Brockmire.

Yep. It's such a White Sox thing to just assume linear development of prospects, and whatever you get at the end is what you get.

A talented player with a hole in his game that is never developed. Seems to be a pattern for the Sox.

Half agree. Teams should have plans based on the best in sports medicine. Players should execute to that, whether on their own or in groups (like agencies, teammates, etc). Teams provide direction, and players execute to that.…. at least that’s my impression.

I would love to have someone like Ron Washington as a bench coach. Time to get an analytics guy at the helm with a skills-oriented old school "baseball guy" to be a complementary piece as a bench coach and to mentor the manager on the finer points of leading a clubhouse.

No, I would say not being conditioned is on the training staff / Sox staff. BTW, I consider "conditioning" to be the ability to withstand the rigors of the increased running that comes from playing in the OF. Being physically incompatible with the position is on Mr. and Mrs. Vaughn. To that end, you can't judge a fish by its ability to climb trees.

The "conditioned for" part is what pisses me off. I feel like a competent team would fix that "conditioned for" part to reduce the wear-and-tear. This team's approach is "just don't try so hard." THAT's the Sox's solution to injury prevention.... not actual conditioning.

I am fully expecting something similar to this with the next hire: https://www.theonion.com/lou-piniellas-first-big-move-as-cubs-manager-is-to-resi-1819568767

Nor is he an analytics guy....

Yeah I get what you're saying. Just pointing out the surface-level humor.

…so… geriatric foreign-born managers?

I've never heard anyone call it "Shitcago" - I've only heard people mention that "they" call it Shitcago.

To me, the Naylor HR game. 2-for-1 special - deflated the s%*# out of us, and inflated the hell out of Cleveland.