I don't think anyone, certainly me, expects everyone to look at the team as 'glass half full'. I don't actually give a s%*#, it's a ball game and it's supposed to be fun, a form of entertainment. I make the point that, one, it's too early to even indicate success based on past evidence of how sports teams rebuild and that the predictive discussion is simply fun banter and a worthwhile endeavor to better gain understanding. The debate is fun, it's less fun when people don't back up their perspectives beyond base emotion and just act rudely to the people they disagree with. It's a lesson I could learn myself. I like when people disagree with me because it's something to talk about and learn from. I change my mind all the time. It's not like we're discussing the merits of Nazism, it's a fuckin ball game.. Some philosopher I sometimes like, Jurgen Habermas, put forward the concept of 'communicative action', essentially that groups of people can arrive at a clearer idea of the truth through debate. Debate and argumentation is a good thing, but there ought to be some structure to it and rules of civility that everyone plays by. It leads to new insights, a common understanding. It's in essence a 'pragmatic' approach which strikes me as a pretty good philosophy. It is a method not without its critics.
Regarding the Chicago White Sox, a team we all seem to like talking about, and to the topic at hand, I try to argue my point of view that we should feel heartened about the future. I don't want to beat a dead horse and say why, I don't say with 100% confidence that I'm correct, but I feel as though it's a reasonable point of view and is open to critique. Some of the remarks, like, "you're trying to force your views on other people and produce a groupthink" or whatever is simply untrue. It seems like an ironic statement coming from a few different posters, frankly. Many of the remarks make me reevaluate my perspective though.
With that background in mind, to the actual topic, I think looking at present W/L record during a rebuild is a fruitless measure of future success. It's pretty obvious that if a team that trades major leaguers for minor leaguers, it's not conducive to immediate improvement. Baseball players take time to develop, seemingly more so than in any other sport (besides maybe hockey). There might be better baseball team-building strategies, but 'tanking' is not necessarily a bad one. Things that we fans have complained about in the past, namely organizational deficiencies, are seemingly being addressed (discussed ad nauseam). Will they actually work? Can't say for certain. Depends if the biomechanists, if the pitching and hitting advisor, if the new DR complex, if the new international scout are actually good at their jobs. Maybe Getz hired a bunch of buffoons, but it's one of those things that 'winning' organizations seem to do that the White Sox did not previously do.
To go point by point (briefly, I want to go to bed), the "middling farm system" was a top farm system until players graduated, and those graduates have shown some success already in the majors. Colson was allegedly a bust, look at him now (so far, I think KLaw's recent points are fair and I'm personally skeptical about his fastball hitting). Crochet was a doomed reliever until he wasn't. Brooks Baldwin, someone we didn't think about at all two years ago, is maybe an actual good ball player. Bonemer, Antonacci, McDougal, that French guy, that guy who went to my high school are showing actual promise as major leaguers, among other players. The farm is deep, but no longer stacked at the top.
On the trades, I agree with you about the Cease trade, but I also wonder if he was ever considered to be that valuable by other teams. SDP couldn't really trade him and he has a 5 ERA right now. I think it's a similar story with Snell who didn't get the big contract he desired, these guys have great stuff but can't actually go deep into games. Think we probably could've gotten more nonetheless. Jury is still out on Thorpe and Sammy (the only guy I liked in the trade) but he is actually producing the last month. Can he continue it? Dubious. Iriarte looks like a bust. The Booser, Mena, Bummer (adding in those last two) trade look like total failures to me. The Mena trade is particularly disappointing, it made no sense, but I suspect Barfield made a good pitch for Fletcher. Probably could've done better with the Greg Santos trade too, but Berroa looked nice before the injury. Maybe the guy we selected 68th, Blake Larson, turns into something good, but I have no opinion on the 19-year-old. Ultimately, they're relief pitcher trades. Mead, I think, was a worthy venture but I'm losing faith. We'll see. Houser is also at a 5.32 ERA with the Devil Rays and is a guy picked up off the scrap heap. Fedde is another guy picked up off the scrap heap and that trade is actually something (Fedde just had an OK game with the Brewers in relief, but tagged with the L...bet they wish they had Shane Smith instead of him).
Getz being "fired tomorrow" is not a reasonable perspective. He's not going to be fired tomorrow. I give it until 2027 to bear fruit then I might change my mind. I've been pretty consistent about this. If he fails over a longer period, I'll absolutely eat crow. I'm on record thinking last year's team might've been OK if every player played to their potential, anticipating Yoan or Benintendi or Eloy might've done something. That was pretty dumb in hindsight.
I can't quibble with the rest of your "ramblings" 😆. My own post is rambly and I'm not going to edit it because I'm sleepy. Probably there are some glaring errors in my logic or I skipped things worth replying to. I'd simply say, it's a fun discussion and it's not fun when everybody agrees with each other one way or the other. "Groupthink" and conformity is boring. Critiquing ideas and not people is, in my opinion, a good way to be.
edit: ok I edited one thing