Everything posted by WhiteSox2023
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The Sox aren't spending "right now"
I’m pretty sure Vargas was moved off of 3B to 2B and then LF because his glove is so bad.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
I never said the Sox couldn’t afford it. But it is a bigger amount to them and they won’t be adding much to it other than more of the same — dumpster diving signings. Posters who thought the Sox would be spending money with Eloy and Moncada off the books will be proven wrong next offseason.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
And Benintendi’s salary for 2025 will soon be 16.5% of the Sox payroll, once Getz drops the payroll to the rumored $100 million per Jerry’s instruction.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
“In the context of baseball” doesn’t mean much considering the Sox have never kept pace with the spending trends in the MLB. 5/$75 is still the most the Sox have paid any single player and they aren’t planning on spending much money, per Getz. So a player salary of $16.5 million per season is a lot to the Sox.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
It’s the largest contract the Sox have ever given out but somehow it’s not a lot of money to the Sox? That doesn’t really make much sense.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
Meanwhile, the Sox were rumored to try to be attaching Benintendi’s contract in a Crochet trade and are still crying poor.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
Getz has been horrible in his short tenure thus far. It doesn’t take a professional scout’s eyes to see that.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
The bigger concern is that to the White Sox, it IS a lot of money.
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Compiled list of Chris Getz GM failures
Getz essentially burned $24 million in a fire pit this past offseason. That’s pretty much Bryce Harper’s annual salary. Brebbia - $5.5 million Maldonado - $4.5 million Lopez - $ 4.3 million Soroka - $3 million Clevinger - $3 million Hill - $1.8 million Flexen - $1.75 million There is also the awful trade for Dominic Fletcher that cost Christian Mena, and the fact that Getz/Barfield chose Fletcher as the return over .800 OPS Jake McCarthy. The trade for Bailey Horn, whom was later dumped for cash. DFA’ing Romy González and Declan Cronin. DFA’ing Kevin Pillar too early. I’m sure there’s more, but those are the ones I remember.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
I totally forgot about Chris The Roider Davis. ”The Orioles signed Davis to a seven-year, $161 million contract in January 2016. In 2018, he set the MLB record for the lowest batting average ever for a qualified player, batting . 168. In 2019, Davis set the MLB record for the most consecutive at bats by a position player without a hit, going 0-for-54.”
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Sox Talk podcast reviewing the day...
Proof that JR thinks it’s his way or the highway. He doesn’t like criticism or detractors. Two former players with World Series rings offer to give him some advice and he shuns them completely. I won’t say it but I can hint at it. Father Time needs to take care of the Sox biggest problem. Until then, we get to watch his sorry ass sh1t show.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
Meanwhile, Maldonado is at -1.4 WAR for the season and cost $4.5 million guaranteed. That’s -1 WAR worse than Seby Zavala (0.4 WAR) who is earning $756,700 on the season. We all agree that Colas should’ve been playing most of this ridiculously sh1tty season. Further proof Getz is a clown with roster management. Absolutely worthless Gavin Sheets is still playing over Colas. Romy González is at 0.8 WAR and making $740,000 on the season. Getz had to trade a valuable reliever away in Bummer to get a bunch of garbage back, including Nicky Lopez. Lopez is at a 0.3 WAR and is being paid a guaranteed $4.3 million dollars. So Getz essentially paid $7.3 million more to get -1.5 WAR less from the crappy players he already had on the roster. And keep in mind, this is just comparing two positional player acquisitions. If you factor in the rest of Getz’s acquisitions from the past offseason, it’s much worse. Trust me… Getz is a terrible GM, period. He was a former Director of Player Personnel and yet he has no clue on how to value players appropriately. He has whiffed far more times than he has signed a good player (Fedde, DeJong) and he got a bust return for Fedde.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
Ironically, most of the players the Sox were interested in (Benintendi) and ultimately traded for (Moncada, Kopech, Luis Alexander Basabe, and Victor Diaz) were either blah or busts. They would have ended up being better off trading Sale for Devers in a one-for-one straight up trade.
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Signings worse than Benintendi in the last 5 years
Rafael Devers. This article explains how the trade went down… https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/how-close-did-the-red-sox-come-to-trading-rafael-devers-for-chris-sale-let-dave-dombrowski-explain/399563/?amp=1
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The Sox aren't spending "right now"
And trade for position player prospects, not busts with less than 6 years of control and no defensive position.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
Remind me what Getz’s job was prior to his undeserved promotion to GM…
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Fedde/Pham/$ to STL, Kopech to LAD, Miguel Vargas + prospects to Sox
Nothing, he was nice about the Sox. SS2K5 made a joke that Pham is just keeping his options open with the Sox for next year, since he’s so old and a job was tough for him to find this season.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
The Dodgers are a much smarter organization than the Sox and they were fine dumping him. Also, he has looked terrible for almost a full season of at plate appearances in his career and that has continued on to the Sox. You wouldn’t have rather acquired the Twins prospect, Luke Keaschall? I know I would have. What a shame…
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
Do you disagree with all the prospect publications who had Miguel Vargas as a top 50 prospect in baseball? Haha, it doesn’t always pan out like they predict unfortunately.
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The Sox aren't spending "right now"
“Jerry’s Cheapskate Strawberry Shake”, made with strawberry Kool-Aid powder, powdered milk, vanilla extract, sugar, and ice. It will be half the price of the $15 dollar Campfire Milkshake because as Kenny always said, you can’t spend a dollar if you only have 50 cents!
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
He’s improving but he has also bad two seasons in a row. Burger has not been bad for two seasons in a row and also isn’t earning $16.5 million dollars a year. I would expect a player who received the highest contract ever given out by the White Sox to at least put up an average performance or higher. Benintendi hasn’t even been close. Not really a good comparison.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
He’s hitting better than Robert. It’s pathetic. I do think it’s funny that the Sox traded away Burger who can hit home runs but has no glove last trade deadline and then acquired a guy who can’t hit at all and can’t play defense this trade deadline in Vargas.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
You acknowledged that he likely has TJ surgery in his future. His fastball is already very low velocity. Thorpe losing a couple ticks off of his already low velocity fastball after TJ surgery is the equivalent of an asteroid hitting the earth?
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
Yeah, we traded a top starting pitcher trade target on a cheap contract for a bust castoff that can’t play defense that the Dodgers didn’t want.
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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)
He’s on an absolute tear lately and would definitely be our best hitter. Yes, I know that isn’t saying much. But let’s how he finishes the season after a terribly slow start to it.