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The worst case scenario about this trade looks to be coming true. Mena has apparently found his lost velocity this spring with the Diamondbacks. “Prospect Cristian Mena’s velocity popping at Diamondbacks' camp“

Isn’t it also possible that these guys are just not good enough / injury-prone players / busts that weren’t going to make it regardless? I sure see a lot of other team’s top prospects get called up at much younger ages and tear it up.

No arguments here.

Sorry, I should have compared him to Lopez. I’d rather have Rosario at 2B. DeJong was cheap enough that he doesn’t really matter, although he’s so bad he should have been a minor league signing with a ST invite. Either way, tough to see how these guys will score any runs.

I wouldn’t really consider having a lot of bad arms in your rotation and bullpen that no one else wanted to be depth. And I don’t know if Rosario would be good here, but if you are going to go after cheap fliers that you could potentially flip for something at the deadline, he was a much better option than Paul DeJong. Rosario was a 4 win player in 2022 with the Guardians. If you are excited about the moves Getz made this offseason, thats fine. But it looks like classic dumpster diving to most other Sox fans, in line with what Hahn did when he wasn’t overpaying relievers.

Grifailing to come true on his promises.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/campaign98/stories/wp082197.htm

A no hitter. This team sucks.

Meanwhile, we paid a left fielder $75 million and his bat turned into utility player quality in the first year, but with the added benefit of playing a poor left field as well.

Hitless through 6 innings? Sounds about right.

And because Bellinger has always been a better player than Benintendi. That isn’t hindsight.

I’ll take this contract for Bellinger over Benintendi’s $75 million dollar contract all day long.

For anyone who has seen this. You can’t get much more honest or epic than this. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mantle-piece/

I almost forgot about Leury in the outfield. The Sox have a long and treasured history of starting terrible bench players out of position.

There have been a multitude of decisions that prove Grifol is a clueless manager, not just his decision to play Sheets in RF. If his failed promises and outright lies aren’t bad enough for you, it’s obvious that we aren’t going to agree on this topic. How you give a terrible owner, a terrible manager, and a terrible team the benefit of the doubt the majority of the time is amazing to me. JR hires people that fall in line. This has been obvious for years. We have a new GM that was gifted the job and did not do enough for player development in his previous role to deserve the promotion. We have a total of two good positional prospects. Our GM wasted millions on dumpster diving for ex-Royals (another losing ball club) and other garbage players this offseason that won’t move the dial. Why does anyone associated with the Sox right now deserve the benefit of any doubt?

Exactly. Let me know when JR actually approves and locks up a $100+ million dollar contract. Yawn…

Take a look at his walk to strikeout rate. He’s also 25 and way ahead the level of competition. He’s nothing but a career minor leaguer.

Fletcher is the obvious choice to me. He’s a lefty that showed he could play RF and hit in a small sample size last year. My point was that we already know Sheets is terrible in the outfield so why continue with the charade?

He can stick to DH against righties then. It should primarily be Fletcher or Pillar in RF. Sheets’ random homer once every 24 at bats isn’t worth all the negatives he brings.

Dude has a career line of .229/.290/.400/.690. His .400 career SLG is not lineup worthy considering he can’t hit in general and plays the outfield with his glove on his head. His supposed power doesn’t make up for how bad he is at literally everything else.

There really still is next to zero reason Sheets should ever play RF with guys like Fletcher, Pillar, Colas, and DeLoach around.

This is simply guesswork by you. Grifol makes the lineup. He’s the manager. He put Sheets in RF, as far as we know. You have zero proof that anyone else told Grifol to start Sheets in RF today. And even if what you say is true, then the situation is far worse. We have a terrible stats department that still thinks Sheets can play RF, along with a bad manager that listens to their idiotic decisions.

But all the little things add up. Maybe you can even get a Fletcher type prospect back at the deadline if you sign the better flip candidate like Rosario, rather than overpaying for Nicky Lopez.

I agree with all of this except for the Fletcher bullet. I still don’t think Mena was much to give up for a potential starter or even borderline starter/fourth outfielder type. Eaton was very similar in build and he did okay. But yeah, the rest was absolute dumpster diving. And it always seems there are better dumpster diving options available than whom the Sox choose. Amed Rosario was signed for $1.5 million. Randal Grichuk was signed for $2 million. These would have been much better acquisitions than Nicky Lopez and Pillar who cost $4.3 million and $3 million (if added to the roster) respectively. Getz could have signed two better players for $3.5 million. Instead, he chose two worse players at the same position for $7.3 million. He paid over double for worse assets.

I disagree with the bolded statement. GriFAIL can be a terrible manager in his own right, regardless of any other factors, such as being given bad players by Getz, players not performing, etc. He continues to kick himself in his own ass with his own poor decisions, such as Sheets playing the outfield.