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Great players are never blocked.

I only mentioned the playoff stuff because you were comparing him to Montgomery and his contract. Monty is coming off a very good year where he was excellent in the playoffs. That helped to drive up his value. Cease is coming off of neither of those things. I don’t actually care about the playoff success but it will help his contract value.

I doubt it. He’s not getting paid 35+M a year.

But how do you know Getz wouldn’t do that? You can’t say that for sure!!!

He had a 97 ERA+ last year and has done nothing in the playoffs.

And this is where you guys and other fan bases have it wrong. A consistent theme we have seen is people saying, well just trade Mayo or Basallo because “you have other guys”. It’s like the people who say billionaires should pay a higher percentage of their money for taxes because “they can afford it”. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. And the other part to this is that Cease just isn’t good enough for that level of player. He can be but in 4 of his 5 years or, if you want, 2 of the last 3, he hasn’t been worth it.

I’m not ignoring anything. The question was asked how do I know… I have ever once said what I think Cease is worth. I have just said what I don’t think he’s worth and that’s an elite, upper echelon top 20ish guy. My point is and only has been that if Getz was getting that type of deal, the deal would have already happened. I have said all offseason that the only team I saw doing this was Boston. I told @Chicago White Soxthat on our board. Mayer was the guy I was thinking. I think they are the one desperate team I could see doing it. But if they don’t, I don’t think it happens and again, I think it already would have if teams were going to do it. Do I think they get a top 50ish guy? Yea. Do I think they get another borderline top 100 guy? Yes. In fact, my offer is 1 top 35ish guy and a top 75 guy. So I do think he is worth that. But I also think that’s less than you guys think he’s worth and I think it’s less than what Getz is asking, especially if you look at the Reds trade that was reported.

Would Getz trade Cease for Stowers, Urias and Tyler Wells?

Ok but this doesn’t answer me question..has any team committed to asking price and if they did, do you think he would have said no to his asking price or do you think he would have traded him?

5/125-140 or so?

If you think you are being attacked because you disagree with me, you are more clueless than I thought. You guys have gotten your panties in a bunch because I have confidence in what my team will give up. You don’t like hearing that we don’t value your player as much as you want. You have taken shot after shot at me and others when I have said I would do the deal most have said they would do and that I think Os fans underrate Cease and that we need him. Yet, you cry about it. So no, you aren’t being attacked because of disagreeing with me. I welcome and enjoy the disagreement and back and forth. I came here because @Chicago White Sox came to our board and he is an intelligent poster that I have enjoyed reading his thoughts on. No, you are being attacked because your are dbag who deserves it to be thrown back at him. Now, if you can attempt to talk intelligently and if you have any knowledge on the topic, I’m all ears and am more than happy to discuss it with you. Otherwise, GFY.

Has any team met Getz’s price? If a team had met his price, do you think he would have traded him?

Do your parents ever let you out of the basement so that you can learn stuff?

I’m reading a guy who has misrepresented everything he has commented on. Reserved or not, if he’s going to essentially lie about what I’m saying, I’m going to say something.

Show me what trade I’m suggesting for Cease? Go ahead. Go back and find it because you look stupid as hell here

I think you hit your head again

Sure they could…in fact I had people in this site telling me they could offer a good package.

Yes because I follow my team.

No question..which a big reason I don’t want them to go that route but it’s what he will do if he has to.

FFS…CEASE IS MY #1 TARGET THIS OFFSEASON . Did I say that clear enough for you to finally understand it or are you still clueless?

Yea I believe that..but Elias won’t do it. It’s just not how he operates. He will go sign Ryu or someone like that for a year before he gives up more value than he feels he should for Cease or anyone else.

The Os aren’t desperate.

What exactly are you asking of me?

Which is the same as saying they are out..which means the options have dwindled.

Well he should diagnose himself with a concussion judging by these posts.