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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 07:18 PM) Well they could have come up with someone better. 2014 was a lost season from the start, so they just used a roster spot to cop a prospect from the nats. exactly, the sox had the ability to do that last yr. not this yr. but to come with a better player in general for the catching pos, it would entail the sox to spend money. hence another yr of dumpster diving.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) With the time that it takes players for to develop, you can't draft for need. And if you draft for need, you're team won't get better. you and many posters does have a valid point. but if the team minor system is stacked, then continue to take the BPA. but if the system needs a specific need, and in this case, continue to rebuild the parent team, gets pitchers, get as many arms as you can.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) What? It has everything to do with Boras and how soon the extra zeros on his commission check increase. i really hope he catches a real bad case of STD. you know who the real culprit is that neighbor hood squirrel swishing its fluffy tail around. yup.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) As am I. The rest of the board seems particularly bearish on him so we probably stand alone here Stan. With Rodon being the "6th starter", I think Beck should be the 7th once he settles in at Charlotte. let me see. Beck or Penny..... for me that is simple. Beck. all i wanted to see of Beck coming in this yr, is the reason why he was so thought of, in other words, pitch the lights out.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 06:28 PM) Why would you sign a massive contract with a team before feeling them out? Obviously that's an advantage you have, he can't do that this offseason with teams . But he can make sure he doesn't get stuck in a disaster or a place he doesn't like for 6 years right now. Might as well take that time. b/c money counts and makes up for the little things. esp if the difference is 5+ mill.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) Was Nieto? yes, b/c of lack of catching in the minors system. that is the only reason.

Runs Scored/Runs Allowed (full season) 645 Record at the All-Star Break (88 games) 52-36 All-Stars Sale, J Samardzija, Robertson, Jose A, LaRoche, Alexei, Eaton and Garcia. Games started at 1B by Adam LaRoche 63 Games started total by Gordon Beckham 77 Total Team Homers 202 Carlos Rodon Debut Date and Role all star break Will Matt Davidson play for the Sox this season? Yes or No. yes injury replacement Samardzija contract- Signed in season, traded in season, unresolved on October 4 no Will Micah Johnson play a minor league game this season? (rehab assignments don't count) Yes or No. yes, needs more development. Will John Danks be on the Sox on August 1? Yes or No. yes Name a player the Sox will trade for in-season. name unknwn, position-pitcher.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 06:10 PM) Her conviction was overturned, there is no reason to extradite i could have sworn i wrote this before. but lookiing back, it disappear. i am have a rough morning. the way i read this, i was totally wrong. my bad.

i don't know, i still feel that there has to be something other than the BPS philosophy. i know i am flopping around like a fish out of water, or maybe it is b/c i am still a little drunk. i don't know. but it goes back to what the sox needs are and how they want to address them. if Aiken and pitcher B is there. pitcher B may not have the ceiling of Aiken, player B is healthy, i will take player B. there is no guarantees the Aiken's will fully develop to the pitcher hes projected to be, and with the likely hood of player B make the roster in a shorter time is even more important in the near future.

march 20, mock http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft/

someone mention earlier of not taking the better player, but taking a player closest to the majors. well, for me, it is based on all things being equal. the slight difference in between the 2 pitchers. unless there is a huge dropoff between the pitcher before Aiken and the lets say pitcher B, i will take pitcher B. only b/c of 2 reasons. 1. there is no guarantee, that he will bounce back, i know, there is nothing in life that is guarantee. 2. those bodies, the prospects in the minors now, the system is not ready to take a gamble like that. it need a sure product to go up to the majors. in 2 yrs and most definitely in 3 yrs, this system will have a turnover of vets. the sox needs is to start planning to address that turnover.

with the ~~wink ~~wink deal that i am sure was in place, are the US going to let Italy extradite he?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 02:58 PM) This coming June 15th, he'll be three years removed from his 2nd TJ surgery....so he's had about 1 1/2 seasons of recovery time. Pitching style Drabek throws a four-seam fastball clocked between 90–96 mph, a curveball in the 79–83 mph range, a cutter with a velocity between 89–95 mph, and a changeup in the 83–86 mph range. Drabek is known for his extremely poor control at times and at one point, he led the league in walks.[36] wikipedia This one screams Don Cooper... Drabek, who was out of options and could not be sent to the Minors without clearing waivers, appeared in 30 games with the Blue Jays over the course of five seasons. He went 8-15 with a 5.27 ERA while striking out 118 over 172 1/3 innings. His biggest issue was a lack of command with 111 walks over that same period of time which often led to moments of visible frustration on the mound. www.mlb.com i am not in a mood to read anymore, this was a patent JR's move, help out those who were nice to him and the club. don't get me wrong, on this, it is a great move.

QUOTE (InTheDriversSeat @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 09:14 AM) Hawk made a comment that the game had the highest attendance of any Spring Training game in history. I think the attendance was over 15,000. Cubs fans are really packing the seats at their new spring training park. in the state that i am in, just trust me, yous guys should just shoot me.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) I know its only ST but the way shark has pitched, he's doing the Sox a favor by waiting until after the season for his next contract. Who's to say he will pitch as well in 15 as he did in 14? If I'm the Sox, I wait and see how he pitches this year and come Nov/Dec decide on offering a contract. this is spring training, pitchers are suppose to use this time to work the kinks out, to stretch their are, loosen up the shoulder. etc..... let wait for regular games.

Riddle me this. i like that. what a phrase from the past.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 28, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) He's solid, and has some pretty good stuff. He has proven it in the past. It's not like were asking him to be an 8th or 9th inning, he would likely enter the 6th or 7th pending on situation. Also, this is how I could see the pitching staff looks like with the sale injury. Samardzija, Quintana, Noesi, Danks, Drabek Robertson, Duke, Petricka, Guerra, Jennings, Putnam, Albers. Then Sale comes back, Drabek becomes long man and can DFA Albers. I could definitely see that happening. i guess i miss this, but a long story short, i can see that. i am kinda of lost, i thought he was most relief pitcher. but if he is a long relief, i guess he can work. so is he taking Penny slot, or are they going to try to sneak him in the minors. i think this will be a good time to make that move. everyone will be looking to trim their roster.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) I think he's the best pitcher of the bunch. He has no leverage either. I would imagine that he doesn't want to go back to school. I'd be perfectly fine with adding Aiken to the system or taking the 9th pick next year as compensation. to me, if this was being done today, and the pitchers are what the owner wants. then it is Kirby and Bickford. the reason, in about 2 yrs he will be up and pitching, can you imagine what the starting 5 is going to look like, wow. just imagine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 05:23 PM) Get there early, like two hours or more, if you can. This will be a big game, and a big tailgate, so there will be an early arriving crowd. in the 90's we had to get there around 9 am and still there were alots of people...... just imagine bears tailgating kind of crowd for that game.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 05:59 PM) Robin Ventura likes what sees from Carlos Rodon's change but wants him to be finished product, not rely on just slider. Thinks it's close. https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/581515383359721473 Ventura with good detailed answer on Rodon and breaking camp. Nothing decided but want him armed with more than 1 or 2 pitches. https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/581515477697970176 RV on Rodon: 'you don't want to be a flash in the pan and have to go down & work on stuff. He has to be a complete product when he comes up' https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/581515772805169154 so it is there, he will not break camp and head north. he will work on his other pitches.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 05:35 PM) its like 10 years premature to compare sale to carlton, let alone rodon i won't answer for anyone, but to day is my day off, and i am extremely happy drinking my sox kool aid and later getting ready for a nice party with some excellent macallan scotch and cigars..... chase with some more sox kool aid.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 05:06 PM) Yep. You mentioned Spencer Adams earlier in this thread. If he reaches his ceiling then, wow. Then there's guys like Montas and Danish, who may or may not be starters at the ML level. With a rotation of Sale, Rodon, Quintana, and Samardzija, all you need is for your fifth guy to not be terrible. But if our fifth guy is someone like Adams, then, yeesh... that's scary good. yes all #1 type pitchers. let alone what will happen in this yrs draft....

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) I hope we can lock up Shark. That's a nasty, nasty rotation. and with the other prospect coming up, its going to even get better.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) Since you can retro the DL 10 days in spring training, start the season with Sale on the DL, and have 8 relievers. The typical long man then won't be needed. Just another guy who could give you 2 innings in a pinch. I don't understand people who would give JR and RH a standing ovation if they waived John Danks, yet have no problem with Brad Penny taking the mound for the White Sox. The guy hasn't been good since Alexei Ramirez left Cuba. If he were lights out this spring, I maybe could understand a spot start, but he has a 6.89 ERA and a 1.787 WHIP. i think there were a lot of problems and it was mention, but the sox owners group did not want to spend the money.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) Things you must never say. Karma man. don't want the baseball gods to get pissed.. i humbly retract my statement.