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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:36 PM) I think you were looking at the wrong column -- it shows 85 losses, 77-85. how crap. i stand corrected.
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Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:09 PM) I would love scherzer but don't want that contract on this team. But anyways, I agree, I don't believe the Tigers are completely out on scherzer like dombroski claims. He said the same thing about fielder then signed him like a week later lol. Also, there just aren't many options for scherzer. Only big market/high payroll teams can afford him and a lot aren't going to sign him that are known like LAD, LAA, Cubs, at this point most likely not Red Sox with all their pitching additions, Giants I don't think since they would have got lester instead, so that leaves the Yankees and tigers? And haven't really heard much on the Yankees getting him but they probably are quietly doing this? getting Scherzer will be a major coup. but as Hahn said the other day, the team may not have the room to bring in a 20 + mil player, or something to that effect. a trade, maybe headed by Hawkins + prospects, can get the sox a 1 yr fix. someone like Leake. someone who can come in and be a plus at the #4 pitcher. -
White Sox acquire Dan Jennings for Andre Rienzo
LDF replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) Detailed write-up on the Jennings trade and the Rule V draft results for the White Sox. again, many thanks for your hard work. -
QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:09 PM) Well, he's not using projected WAR to try to calculate a record, but instead as a measure of projected total "true talent" that each teams currently have. I think it makes much more sense there. If you asked Cameron to predict records, he would point to projected BaseRuns records (which is a much, much better version of Pythagorean record), which very quietly got put up on their site last week: http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings This model currently has the Sox projected for 77 wins. i must be reading it wrong, i thought i saw 85 wins. the difference between 1 and the sox in a net of 3 wins difference.
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QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:04 PM) Would you guys go 4 years on Melky? It really seems like his best offer is 3 years right now... and honestly I think he is the best fit for this team now. He won't cost a load of prospects to acquire, and you can reasonably expect him to hit pretty well against lefties and righties alike. The more the offseason goes on, I really do hope we sign him. He's a proven hitter. no, it does not give the sox any flexibility in the upcoming yrs. the sox will be stuck like Dodgers, Philly and some other teams.
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Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) I'd never underestimate Ilitch's ability to just decide to sign someone. I think he's one of those owners who might just tell Dave Dombrowski to go sign Scherzer, at whatever cost. i know. which is why i am stating that JR need to spend a little more. -
QUOTE (AlSoxfan @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 02:51 PM) I'm kinda new as a member, not as a lurker an one of the reasons I became a member is to say Thank You to you an everyone else who fills my head with info, so Thank You i know, i do my best, i deserve all the credit, you are welcome.
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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) The great thing about the MLB playoffs.....all you have to do is make it. And with our front 3 starters we have as good of shot as anyone in a 7 game series. We for sure need to add minimum 1 more at least above average bat, but I don't think there is any team in the AL that is head and shoulders better than us currently. Not to mention that steamer projections team WAR is a pretty ridiculous measure to use. I get his overall point, but its still a pretty big reach for the basis of an article. Must not have much to write about. you are right, come playoff, the big 3 are the major players. in the pitching rotation. but the sox need 4 solid pitchers to help the team to get to the playoff. the 5 pitcher being a real useable pitchers and back up pitchers if there is an injury.
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i don't know about that. the Parity as of right now is equal in all 3 division. anyone team can surprising win the AL championshp. with that, i hope the sox brass sees that and maybe spend a little more for the right player. either cash or maybe players, the right players.
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Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Porcello is also a free agent at the end of this season. many thanks..... so how was this a equal trade for DET. i am really am confuse. there has to be something else in the works for Det. -
Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 02:19 PM) Yeah - I'm not sure what the Tigers are thinking here. det got a player who is going to be there for 1 yr, then FA, Porcello is going to be a fa when?? det just weaken themself with the pitching rotation. unless they sign or trade for another #1 pitcher, what are they thinking. -
with the trades that LAD did yesterday, does anyone think that there still might be a trade with chi?
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Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
i just don't know, does anyone think that Det just screwed themself by trading Rick Porcello? i just can't see the logic. so for all those who are smart about baseball, which is almost everyone here, i would like to read your opinions, again. -
QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 12:29 PM) Because he continuously lights them up every time we play them. power, age, change of scenes, power.
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QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 12:14 PM) I've found that Rock (and bucket for that matter) has been pretty accurate with what he shares. Inside information doesn't mean 100% correct information all of the time. I certainly appreciate any and all tidbits. I think in this case, he was saying that he expects the Sox to make another move or two. Based on what Hahn has said, I think we can all agree that they are still trying to fill a couple more holes, and that's what I took from Rock's comment here. All that being said, I hope that if the Sox only make one more move it's more a better option in the outfield. We keep saying to give Viciedo one more chance, one more year, but we see the same results every year (minus a couple weeks where he shows flashes of what could be). I don't want the Sox to make a move just to make a move, but I'd really like to see the LF position improved. The team has been improved dramatically this off season, and if we go into the season with the way the team is contructed now, they'll have a better chance at the division. But one or two more moves could make them the favorites. i deleted my post before, b/c i didn't want to be a jerk. i agree with an earlier statement. i will leave it at that. i respect those who is not afraid to state their mind. now back to sox baseball. i too agree about trading DV for anything. i know, i am flopping around like a dang fish out of the water here. i was really excited about the offseason that Hahn has done. now i will go back to what iwas saying last yr.. 20 hrs is a nice stat. even thou he can really do to help himself at the plate. maybe, just maybe DV will listen and work with the coaches and work on each single pitch, instead of swinging at everything. with the trade that Det did, i really think that AL central is the sox to loose. i wish i was back in chi, i would buy season ticket again. this is going to be a fun season.
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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 12, 2014 -> 02:56 AM) Thank you . This needed to be said in the worst way. Now if someone can take all of Rock's recent posts and tell me he was spot on in the Sox acquisitions then keep jumping on his bandwagon. No disrespect meant. wow, .
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seeing all the activity that has happen these past few days, got me thinking. the shift has been made and esp in the NL. since yesterday when some reporter mention that Cincy may start to trade their assets. I am looking and I think, Cincy and the Sox may line up nicely. now, if anything does happen, it will be after this week. but I am wondering of the cost of what Cincy will look at and how will they start trading those assets.
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QUOTE (kwill @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) Here what I don't get about this rumor. Are the Mariners seriously considering putting Nelson Cruz and Dayan Viciedo in the outfield together. It just seems like a potential disaster for them. holy crap, that will be 1 huge nightmare. as someone else mention, the d/h position will come into the equations.
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QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:57 PM) Its the difference between trading someone at peak value (Petricka) and someone at their floor value (Webb). Webb has the stuff to succeed and I think he is going to be a lights out guy eventually, but his development is going to take a little longer, something they have the luxury to provide with Guerra, Putnam, and Robertson also in the pen. If you can get a solid return for Petricka, the Sox should take it. RP's are the most unpredictable position for year to year performance. good one, and i agree. however, lets not go into the season any weaker. lets address that for the season 2016-2017. that value should increase with Petricska.
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Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:52 PM) The red Sox have 5 fourth starters in their rotation. Strong team? Eh. IMO they are around an 80 win bunch. White Sox are currently around 83 IMO. Both team need moremgood moves plus some development luck to make playoffs IMO. The al easdt is bad tho, might be worst in AL. i really don't have a time to talk about it now, -
Yoenis Cespedes traded to Detroit for Rick Porcello
LDF replied to Buehrle>Wood's topic in The Diamond Club
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:50 PM) I think the Tigers are worse than they were last year, but that's because they are essentially replacing Porcello and Scherzer with Greene and Simon. From yesterday to today, assuming they knew they were not going to resign Scherzer, I think they've improved. They are trying to sneak a few years in there before their window closes, and I think they're about 2 years from it closing shut. i like your thinking, but i am looking at the sox after 2005 and at Bos last yr. Det is going the rt of sox in 2005 and to savage a couple more yrs. the sox should have done a total rebuild in 2007 or later. that big distraction was Ozzie and family. now Bos did the right thing last yr. they just regroup and traded their main assets and did a quasi rebuild. this should be an example to use from now on. -
QUOTE (kwill @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) I really dislike this trade but to be fair I do not know much about the prospects the Dodgers received in return. I heard they may take those prospects and flip them in the Rollins deal to include Hamels. Which would be hilarious cause that would screw the Red Sox over. The reasons I dislike it. 1. Not as high on Grandel as everybody seems to be. He is not very good defensively and offensively is just above average. 2. I would think the Dodgers would be able to flip Kemp to have somebody eat the whole salary and get a couple good prospects. 5 years 110 for a right handed power hitter is not bad at all. 3. If there is one place that will mitigate Kemp's value that would be San Diego. He will be exposed defensively. the prospects aside, the Dodgers has quietly fixed their hole that they had.
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) Maybe so, but the FO loves what Petricka brings to the table. Fits their ground ball MO and they think he has a special arm in terms of longevity in a season. if he can bring in an important piece that is missing, then no trade. the sox need the arms now. who knows in season '16
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QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) Makes it sound like they're stepping back for a bit Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 2m2 minutes ago Hahn: "we are going to head back to Chicago, regroup & try to knock off a few more targets on our list. In our opinion, we're not done yet' i like the move,, regroup and analyze.
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White Sox acquire Dan Jennings for Andre Rienzo
LDF replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
no matter what, for me, it was a move to acquire arms, esp arms with exp since we lost a Bassitt.
