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In a ceremony that is defying the Vatican, 9 women to be ordained. Feel free to discuss. Nine women to defy Vatican to become priests Wed Jun 8,11:50 AM ET OTTAWA (AFP) - Nine women, including one Canadian and one American, plan to defy the Vatican and become the first female Roman Catholic priests and deacons ordained in North America during a ceremony on a boat on the St. Lawrence River next month. The ceremony, which is not sanctioned by the Vatican, is to take place July 25 on the river near Gananoque in eastern Canada following a conference on women as priests at Carleton University in Ottawa. The location for the ceremony was chosen because organizers considered it to be international waters between the United States and Canada where no diocese has juridiction and thus cannot interfere. "I only have my faith and my hope and what the global scene says to me that I believe it's time to take this step," said former nun Michele Birch-Conery, 65, who was ordained as a deacon last year in Europe. She will be the first Canadian woman to be ordained as a priest next month. "It is an immensely wounding part in our Catholic history to block women's ecclesiastical participation in orders. I think people have been closed to a deeper, fuller expression of their faith by having, in the hierarchy and levels of authority and decision-making, a male-only church," she said. Fourteen women have already been ordained in similar river ceremonies in Europe in recent years and 65 others are planning to join their ranks soon. The Vatican has refused to allow women becoming priests and reacted by excommunicating the first seven women ordained on the Danube River between Germany and Austria in 2003 after they refused to retract their vows. But, two of the women, Christine Mayr-Lumetzberger of Austria and Gisela Forster of Germany, were later secretly ordained as bishops by their male counterparts in the Roman Catholic church, insists Birch-Conery. The two women bishops will perform the St. Lawrence ordinations. "This doesn't conform to the Catholic faith. Church teachings are clear: only men can be ordained," said Monseigneur Serge Poitras of the Apostolic Nunciature in Ottawa, noting that the former Pope John Paul II addressed the issue in 1994. "People can do what they want. We don't have an army. We won't chase after them. All we can do is deplore such challenges to church doctrine and set the record straight," he said. About 220 people will attend the ceremony and banquet aboard the boat which usually ferries tourists around the picturesque Thousand Islands on the St. Lawrence River. Some of the women are divorced, others married. Celebacy or sexual orientation is not considered, but years of religious study is a prerequisite, Birch-Conery said. Once ordained, the women will not lead a flock or perform liturgies, but Birch-Conery has already been invited to talk about her faith with several small groups. "We know we may be discredited. But, levels of faith expression have opened for me that I didn't have before. It's a calling for me," she said. "We'll just have to see if this leads to change."

Gross, on all counts: too skinny, bad hair color, gross bleached out freckles, smoking (menthols no less, ick). When she's 40 she's going to look back and be like, s***, what did I do to myself.....

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) How do we know you aren't a guy pretending to be a Soxy? I would have thought last year's thread on cooter pops would have cleared that up.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Congrats! And hopefully you can find out the baby's sex and it cooperates -- unlike me when I was in the womb who just kept mooning the ultrasound thingy. Lol, my sister and I were both supposed to boys. Hopefully SS's turns out to be correct or he might have a little boy sleeping in a pink room.

QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) you're seriously offended??? Yep. I think that comments like that divide the party even more than it is--I also think that it pushes away moderates (hell, I'm not even a moderate and it pissed me off). Perhaps Dean's time would be better spent trying to get Christians/religious people to vote for him instead of ragging on the republicans and their constituents. Forget about the other party and get youself in order....

Dean's comments are idiotic. What he said is offensive--like there's something wrong being religious. Friggin ludicrous. And due to the sheer number of Christians in this country there's probably a load of them voting independent, democrat, socialist, libertarian, whatever. And if you broke down the voting into denominations, I bet that Kerry would probably have won some of the more liberal denominations (ELCA Lutheran, Anglican, UU's, etc). Just a stupid comment.

Scary! Just because of this I vow to stay away from New Jersey all summer! Great White shark attacks New Jersey surfer By Jon Hurdle 1 hour, 24 minutes ago PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A 17-year-old surfer in New Jersey lost a chunk of leg flesh in what is likely the state's first attack by a Great White shark in 30 years, officials said on Wednesday. New Jersey resident Ryan Horton was about 25 feet off the beach at Surf City, Long Beach Island early on Sunday afternoon when he felt a sharp pain in his ankle but didn't see what caused it. After paddling back to shore, he was taken to a hospital, Surf City Police said in a statement. Bob Schoelkopf, director of the Marine Mammal Stranding Center in Brigantine, New Jersey said photos of the wound confirmed it could only have been made by a Great White. The last recorded shark attack in New Jersey was at Sandy Hook in 1975, the year of the movie "Jaws," which terrified audiences with tales of Great White attacks. Although such attacks are very rare, there is evidence that Great Whites live in the waters off New Jersey. In recent summers, naturalists have found signs of the sharks, including two dead sea turtles with 27-inch (68.5-cm) gashes that could only have been caused by a Great White. Other sharks that share New Jersey waters with swimmers include the "very aggressive" Bull shark; the Mako shark, and the Sand Tiger, none of which could have inflicted the kind of wound Horton suffered, Schoelkopf said. Schoelkopf said there was no reason for people to change their swimming habits because of the latest incident, noting "there's a greater chance of getting hit by lightning" than of being bitten by a shark. Worldwide, there were 61 unprovoked shark attacks on humans in 2004, similar to the number in the previous four years, according to the International Shark Attack File, a service run by the Florida Museum of Natural History.

How would you describe your mental approach to the game; how do you react when you get behind in the count or give up a few runs?

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) You are flat out wrong when you say that genetics is bottom-up which makes me question the courses you have taken. As I have stated earlier I am entrenched in computer science & in the particular field I am working now we are equally entrenched in studying biological processes as we attempt to mimic them for applications in the computer world. Computer modelling does not equal actual biological systems and why they occur. No way no how. Looking at some of the modelling techniques (McCullough Pitts neuron, neuromodelling, etc) there just isn't a good correspondance to nature. Not to mention success rate is pretty low, and the moderate success for modeling has come with extremely simple tasks that don't correlate well to humans. Sorry, but that is a completely different field.

Wow, that's awesome SS!!!!! Good luck!

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) A couple girls I know would say their going home to bob tonight or I'm meeting bob later. Which we found out to mean BOB...Battery Operated Boyfriend. Yeah, that's popular one. And one deserving of a mention.

Any word on what "genetic" factor they're talking about? Slow/deadened nerves, poor release of hormones? This is really interesting, but I'm wondering exactly what they're talking about in terms of the physiology... Oh, and thanks mom.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) are you available chisoxy? lol Talking about my catering availability? Birthdays and Bar mitzvahs only.

since red velvet cake wasn't an option..... Chocolate on chocolate

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 09:59 PM) LMFAO. Look at Carson. "I tried 50 different outfits on before today!!!" At least they're all leading with the correct foot....

Question for Steff/whoever: Does Ross have clubhouse issues? Is that why they aren't giving him more play time? Just wondering if there were some Willie-esque reasons for him staying in Charlotte.....

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) I'm heading to the West Coast for Sox-Pads, if the problem isn't solved by then you can move in with me. I can see it now.. It's a deal.... (cue Ian releasing ants outside my apartment in the middle of the night )

HELL YEAH! I can't believe we won the way the offense played tonight. Hurray for our pitching!!!!!!

QUOTE(CrimsonWeltall @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) eat some of the ants in view of other ants. they will report to their hill that you are not to be messed with Done and done. And that cat's been doing that for days. Focking ants.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more Tima at first base! No more Paul GIDP and striking out. Kyrie Eleison on the White Sox and Ross Gload! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

So, we've been having a problem with ants in our apartment. Not just in the kitchen, but everywhere. There's no food left out or anything like that. So, I was hoping I could get some advice on products or solutions from people. Thanks from me and my grossed out roomie.

Lady Godiva, dressed so demurely, Pats the head of another curly-haired boy, Just another toy. Sick with silence, she weeps sincerely, Saying words that have oh so clearly been said So long ago. Draperies wrapped gently around her shoulder, Life has made her that much bolder now That she [has] found out how.

Oh, and grape tomatoes. Always grape tomatoes. I eat them like Candy. And watermelon and peaches. And corn on the cob (peaches and cream varity is the best). I love summer food.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 02:53 PM) Thx, why do women need more cushion on the bike seat? Don't women usually have more of their own cushioning? You'd think a man's bike would need it. I have no idea, but before I got my gel seat it was not pleasant. I think our butt bones are sharper.

That is so sad. Amazing performing, and it sounds like a good person too. RIP and condolances to Mel...