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Bill Devaney, CBS Sportsline NFL Insider reports breaking news that Clinton Portis suffered ain injury in a weight room incident and will be out 2-3 months. Then it began to be reported on local radio shows. Now it has been taken off of the website and is being reported as false on the radio shows. Which is it? Is it a false report by this jamoke or is he really out for 2-3 months? Has anyone heard anything about this?
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Zoom, here is a good article for you that shows why I don't like Lav Coles or Issac Bruce at all. It's good reading. Enjoy. Player Spotlight: Laveranues Coles Coles has gone over 1,200 yards in two straight seasons. By Ted Carlson, Senior Editor September 9, 2004 5:00 AM ET Many fantasy owners list Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison, and Torry Holt as their top three fantasy receivers. And for good reason, as Moss, Harrison, and Holt are three of the four NFL receivers who have gone over 1,200 yards in each of the last two seasons. The fourth? Must be Hines Ward or Terrell Owens, right? Nope, keep scanning down the rankings. Chad Johnson? No. Joe Horn? Derrick Mason? Since he's the subject of this article, you probably guessed long ago that Laveranues Coles is the answer. The next question then is why a player with 2,468 yards over the last two seasons doesn't get much respect relative to Moss, Harrison, and Holt? Coles has three big things working against him in fantasy circles: His past touchdown production, Mark Brunell, and a lingering toe injury. On the first point, Coles scored only six, five, and seven touchdowns over the last three seasons. Those numbers put him in a group with such recent fantasy teases as Jimmy Smith, Isaac Bruce, and Amani Toomer. Bruce has reached double-digit touchdowns twice in his long career but has settled for seven or fewer scores in six of his last eight seasons. Smith and Toomer have never caught more than eight scores. As such, Smith, Toomer, and Bruce are routinely (and justifiably) ranked well below the elite fantasy receivers despite their solid production. Holt formerly belonged to that group as well, but Torry broke out with 12 touchdowns in 2003. Coles undoubtedly has the talent to score at a similar rate, but the second and third aspects named above will once again keep him from elite fantasy levels this season. Coles' Redskin career and 2003 season got off to a promising start when he piled up 106, 180, and 105 yards in the first three games. However, Coles suffered a hairline fracture in his big right toe during that third contest and played the rest of the season with the malady. Laveranues managed to reach the 100-yard mark only once more over the final 13 games. Sadly for fantasy owners, Coles choose to wait until nearly the end of the season to reveal his injury. Even more sadly, Coles opted for rest over surgery during the offseason. He stayed off the foot for a while, and then played in the Pro Bowl. He stayed off the foot some more, and then participated in May minicamps. Unfortunately, the rest did not work, as his toe bothered him in early May. More rest and new support in his shoe have helped a little, but Coles will still need to nurse the toe throughout the season. As such, we can only expect him to play at the level he showed over the last 13 weeks of 2003. His 813 yards and five touchdowns over that span project to 1,001 yards and roughly six scores. – not exactly elite numbers. We then come to the third concern: Brunell. The Redskins new starting quarterback is a three-time Pro Bowler who does a nice job of game management, but he's not exactly fantasy-friendly. Brunell has never thrown more than 20 touchdowns in a season, and no receiver under his watch has ever eclipsed the eight-score mark. With the Redskins forming their offense around Clinton Portis and the ground game, Brunell won't likely change those two stats about himself this season. As such, we don't expect Coles to have a breakout touchdown campaign with Brunell under center and in Gibbs' run-first system. If his toe doesn't bother him too much, Coles could turn that 1,001-yard rate into another 1,200-yard season. However, it looks like Laveranues is headed toward another Jimmy Smith- and Amani Toomer-like campaign.
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I like that team. I think Martin is a good pick that late as well as your points about him are very good. Like I said if I was able to get a top 5 back things would have looked a lot different on my team. I won't take Deuce over Moss. I won't take any of the RBs that were available to you in the 2nd over Culpepper. There is a reason that none of them thrilled either of us. In the third and fourth is where I drafted my RBs and that is where you got Chad Johnson, which to me is an awesome pick. He shouldn't have been there. I peronally don't know why either Chris Brown or Thomas Jones thrills you. Both of these backs can be very good. Your QBs don't do much for me, but with Green, Harrison, and Chad Johnson you should be more than ok. Martin should do just fine as a #2 back. By the way, what are your starting lineup options? How many RBs, WRs every week?
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Ha ha ha! OK, as you wish.
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Here is what Fanball.com's sources say about a couple players we have been arguing over: Chris Brown: The next stud running back Chris Brown led the AFC in rushing yards this preseason. That stat is virtually meaningless, but the second-year man from Colorado ran like a young Eddie George, except with speed and elusiveness. You need look no further than George to see the potential in Brown. Eddie ran for no less than 1,300 yards and an average of 8.5 touchdowns in his first five seasons with the Titans, although he never averaged more than 4.1 yards per carry. Brown averaged 7.5 yards per carry this preseason. Chris is the unquestioned number one back in Country Music Paradise and looks to be a solid number two fantasy back. While he still has to prove he can run well against defenses more prepared to stop him, his fantasy worth will depend more upon whether he can stay healthy all year in the face of constant pounding. My 4th round pick. Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia Eagles Westbrook was handed the keys to the Eagles' offense by default when Correll Buckhalter went down with a season-ending torn patellar tendon. Westbrook managed 11 touchdowns last year despite splitting carries three ways with the now-departed Duce Staley and Buckhalter. Now, suddenly, he's the every down back. While this prospect makes us giddy in anticipation of what one man alone can do in an offense that found a way to squeeze 2,500 yards and 27 touchdowns out of last season's three-headed monster, it's also scary to think what could happen to the 5-8, 200 pound back in the face of such constant pounding. He's proven he has a knack for injury, and the Eagles will be holding their breath every time he takes a big hit. You should be, too. It will be interesting to see how Westbrook takes to the feature-back role, and also to see if unheralded second-year man Reno Mahe and rookie Thomas Tapeh manage to snipe any of his carries. The guy you wanted me to take instead of Thomas Jones. Quentin Griffin, Denver Broncos Watching Griffin run this preseason was somewhat similar to watching, dare I say, a certain former Lions' running back of similar stature with the initials B.S. While it is likely a bunch of, well, B.S. to think that Griffin is anything resembling the Hall of Famer, at times he did look Sanders-esque. Not only because of his physique, but because of his quick, elusive running style and because you get the feeling he could just as easily take it the distance as he could lose five yards on every carry. Griffin is the number one back heading into week one, thanks to his great preseason performance, Mike Anderson's injured knee, and Tatum Bell's injured hand. Keep an eye on the carries early on, and if Tatum starts stealing a few more carries each game, watch out. Remember, Clinton Portis didn't even start for the Broncos in his rookie year until week five. He finished with 1,500 yards and 15 touchdowns. Bell is essentially an unknown at this point, and If Griffin holds onto the job, he'll be a star. Just watch the distribution of carries here carefully and be ready to bail on one or the other. My 7th round pick The Vikings' running backs and number two receiver Is Michael Bennett out for one game? Two? Four? Will Onterrio Smith ever be suspended? What happens to Moe Williams when both are back and healthy? It looks like Smith and Williams will share carries in week one, and then it's anybody's guess. At receiver, while newcomer Marcus Robinson nursed a sore hammy for weeks on end, second-year man Nate Burleson quietly crept into the picture as the top option behind Randy Moss. During camp, coach Mike Tice called out Robinson for babying his injury and made Burleson the starter. He responded with five catches for 89 yards and a touchdown. Whoever ends up number two on the Vikings' totem pole becomes a solid number three fantasy receiver. WR Position Referees will call the new rule very closely in an effort to break cornerbacks' bad habits early on. After the yellow flags become worn and tattered from overuse, receivers should have the upper hand without so much clutching and grabbing going on. It is frightening to think what receivers like Randy Moss and Marvin Harrison can do without having cornerbacks draped all over them like the paparazzi on Britney Spears during their routes. Depending upon how closely the calls are made, the receiver position could become pivotal for your fantasy team.
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Yes, but I disagree with you as well. Dillon? I think we have already been through this. I already said Barlow lasted until one pick before me and I would have taken him in the third. IN THE THIRD! Obviously no one else thought he was worth a 2nd round pick either. That could have been on of the reasons for limiting Westbrook's carries. TJ behind an awful line in Arizona. Preist Holmes behind one of the best lines in the NFL in Baltimore. Could that be a reason for the 3.7 yards per carry? He was NEVER handed the starting job. Our OLine has 2 former pro bowlers on it and possibly a future one in Jon Tait and pro bowl alternate that is injured in Rex Tucker. This line is a s***LOAD BETTER THAN THAT ARI O-LINE! Are you kidding me? Why do you think this offense will not be better than that one? What you say here is non sense and seems like you are saying it just for arguments sake with no thought put into it what so ever. I am mentioning one guy, Priest Holmes, because he was put into the same exact situation inthe same exact offense. I am mentioning one guy, Priest Holmes, because that is whom our coaching staff has compared him to time and time again. You are seriously going to compare the talents of Stacey Mack, James Stewart, and James Allen to Thomas Jones? You are seriously on something and have watched not one ounce of football if you seriously believe that. Jones is a very good receiver, he was just never placed in that situation in that type of offense. Westbrook will never last through 300 carries and the numerous of catches he will have. I can't wait for this season to start so you can eat your words. I have Moss, CULPEPPER, Jones, and Brown. Brown is also very intriguing as he also mixes into this discussion as I got him in the 4th round. In most mock drafts he has gone in the 3rd round. He kinda reminds me of Deuce's situation a few years back when they traded away Ricky Williams in order to start Deuce. Chris Brown is the same type of back with the upright running style, good at the goal line, and a very good receiver out of the backfield. Remeber Deuce's first year as a starter? 1388 yards rushing and 16 total TDs, another 352 receiving. Could be the same situation. I can't wait to hear why it won't be according to you. If you mention Antowain Smith I am going to be laughing my ass off.
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So your saying I should have taken an RB in the second round just because I didn't take one int he first? Not that it mattered if there was a good one there or not or that it mattered if I could get the same type of back in the third round and still get Culpepper in the 2nd. It is just the rules that should be followed because that is the way things are? Well I don't go by that theory. If there is not a good back in the 2nd round or if they are comparable to what I will get in the third then I will wait and take one in the third. That only makes sense. I am not saying that TJ is going to put up numbers with Deuce. What I did say is that Moss and TJ will put up similar or better numbers to Deuce and Charles Rogers, or Deuce and Laverneous Coles, or Deuce and whatever other 2nd rate WR there is. Liek I said Deuce is a great talent, but he seems to miss his blocking back Terrell Smith. He has a rookie blocking for him this year and we will see how well that goes. last year is last year, this year is this year. Fred Taylor is an injury waiting to happen and USUALLY does not get the call at the goal line. I don't ever like taking that guy. I am still expecting 1400-1600 total yards and 10 TDs from TJ. Those are my expectations and we wil lsee what he can do this year. I don't think you nor anyone else knows how effecient he can be around the goal line. Has he ever been given enough chances? Let us do a little comparison between Preist Holmes and TJ. Priest Holmes 1999 26 years old, 3 years experience, 9 games, 506 yards rushing and 1 TD 2000 27 years old, 4 years experience, 2 games startred, 588 yards rushing and 2 TDs I bet you were saying that it was foolish to draft Priest Holmes in the third round in 2001, werent you? 2001 28 years old, 5 years experience,16 games started, 1551 Yards rushing, 614 yards receiving, 10 total TDs Thomas Jones 2002 24 years old, 3 years experience, 9 games, 511 yards rushing, and 2 TDs 2003 25 years old, 4 years experience, 3 games started, 627 yards rushing, and 3 TDs 2004 26 years old, 5 years experience, Hmmm, I can't wait to find out! Are you worried? Can you imagine if I have Moss, Culpepper, and then TJ do something close to that? I will run away with the league. It won't even be close. Westbrook has had nagging injuries every year in his 2 year career so far. His carries are limited for a reason. He is very talented no doubt but he has shown he can't take the punishment. He only had 117 carries last year and 154 touches overall and they were scared about over using him. Hey I may be wrong and you may be right, but he is not someone who is going to get the ball a hell of a lot or make it through the entire season. Plus the Eagles are not a running team, they are built around the pass.
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So now your comparing Westbrook and Bennett to Payton and Sanders? How ridicuous is that. There are exceptions to every rule and you just compared 2 could bes and injury prone backs to 2 of the top 3 RBs of all time. Come on now. By the way Westbrook is listed at 5' 10" and in some cases 5'9". Suggs has had one big knee injury problem and hasn't had another before or since. Thomas Jones? These are not even football fluke injuries your talking about. One was when he was having an argument and slammed the phone done and fractured his hand. How fluke is that? Has this guy ever been injured on the football field? Bruce did not have 1000 yards last year and he only managed 5 TDs. Go to fanball.com and join the Owners Edge which I believe is like 19 bucks. In there they have elite cheatsheats that are updated daily. They have had Lelie ranked ahead of Bruce during the whole offseason. If you want I will email a copy over to you so you can save your dollars. However, you might think I made some type of adjustments to it if I did that so it might be best if you saw it for yourself. They also have Walker listed at 11. Like I said you are reading outdated materials. Keep up to date. Lelie is my #3 receiver and you are ripping him like I want him to perform like a #1. Sorry, I have Moss to do that job for me. I think Jones will also have 1300 yards and probably 1600 combined yards and throw in about 10 TDs. That is my prediction for Jones. Sean Salisbury predicted him to have 1400 yards and 10 TDs so we are not that far apart. If he produces like that and I was able to grab him in the third round while also having Randy Moss, Daunte Culepper, and Chris Brown then you are going to be s***ting your pants and I will be running away with the league title. Taylor staying healthy is a big if. Taylor getting the ball in short yardage situations is not likely. If Barlow would have fell to me in the 3rd I would have grabbed him. I did not want to take the chance on him in the 2nd round over Culpepper. That doesn't make sense. Not for all the ifs surrounding him. Edge could be good but I am taking Moss over him everytime. He went in the first round there was no chance to get him in the 2nd or 3rd. Dillon? please I think we talked enough about him and Rudi Johnson has a lot to prove to take in the beginning of the 2nd round, which is where he was taken. You want to bet me that Jones reaches 1200 yards then I will take that bet. PM me and we will switch email addresses. I will definately take that bet. You were saying that you would have taken Westbrook over Culpepper. That would have made him my #1 back. If you are saying that you would have taken him over Jones then so be it, but Westbrook is not going to make it through a full season. He is an injury prone back and someone I do not want as my #1 instead of Thomas Jones. Charles Rogers? He was drafted in the 5th, where I got Lee Suggs. I got Walker a round later. Walker and Rogers should have comparable seasons. When did you want me to take Rogers? In the 5th? I wouldn't have gotten Suggs. That is just a ridiculous mention. Taking RBs in the next 2 makes sense to you and that is fine. I went a different direction and I think it is very solid. I got the best QB overall and the best WR overal. I then went to get an RB who, in my opinion, will total between 1400-1600 combines yards and 10 TDs. That would be 1st round RB in your opinion and I got him in the 3rd while also getting Moss and Culpepper. Coles? In case you didn't know he is still playing with a bad toe. Good luck with him. Plus that is now a running team. Portis, Portis, and more Portis. If you have that set of WRs I feel sorry for you as you will get killed. Isn't fantasy football itself risky? Whenever you draft you draft on potential. The guy that wins the league does not usually win it with his 1st round pick. It is usually the players that go above and beyond their potential in the later rounds and the wavier pickups they make. However, I think you knwo this already. Alright now yuo really have to be kidding me. Watch the games. Everyone knows that this guy throws a very inaccurate ball. He does not put it in his receivers hands. It was most noticable in the playoffs last year. You really can't be serious in thinking that this guy is an accurate passer. I don't know what publications you have been reading or what TV shows/Radios shows you have been watching/listening to but you really have to wake up. That has been his biggest flaw that everyone points out when they talk about him. Jeze, Boomer Esiason couldn't stop talking about it last year. Culepper has had 3 damn good seasons out of the 4 he has played in. The only mediocre season he has had is his injury season in 2001 when he only played in 11 games. 2000 - 16 games, 3937 passing, 33TDs, 16 INTs, 470 rushing, 7 TDs 2001 - 11 games, 2612 passing, 14TDs, 13 INTs, 416 rushing, 5 TDs 2002 - 16 games, 3853 passing, 18 TDs, 23 INTs, 609 rushing, 10 TDs 2003 - 14 games, 3479 passing, 25 TDs, 11 INTs, 422 rushing, 4 TDs Yes he threw for more INTs than TDs in 2002 but he also had 609 yards rushing, 3853 yards passing, and 28 total TDs. The only average year he has had was in 2001 and a lot of QBs would kill to have that year. We will see who wins at the end of the season. As I said if you are going into the season with Lav Coles, Charles Rogers, and whatever other lame bastard you can think of to go along with Deuce McAllister, Steve McNair and Dom Davis/Steven Davis then I think you will get killed by Randy Moss, Jevon Walker, Ashley Lelie, Daunte Culpepper, Thomas Jones, and Chris Brown. Just my opinion and good luck with your fantasy football season. Don't forget to PM me to take me up on that bet.
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Did you see what he wrote? Every one of his receivers are capeable of going 1000 yards and 10 TDs. To have Chambers as your #1 receiver is asking for BIG trouble. As I said before, 1000 yards is not even that big a deal let alone 900 like you state. You better hope for a lot more than that from your #1 receiver. Bruce had an off year? Check out his stats, he is in a steady decline and he has an awful QB throwing him the ball. He didn't just have an off year, he is going into decline, tooo bad you can't see that. Davis in rounds 4- whatever yes he is a good back to have. He is a good back to have as a #3. To count on him as a #2 with his college injury history and the way he broke down last year (there was a reason he received so little carries at the end of the year and one game he didn't even play in) when all you have is LaDaninan on your whole team to carry you is asking for big trouble. Domanick Davis is a #3 back that should be drafted during the 4th round or later. He is currently being drafted in the 2nd round and is being asked to do way too much. I am not just saying his size is the only thing in the way of him getting injured, but he has not been the most durable back in college or in his one year in the pros. Assumptions can be made because you can go back during his college years and look at his history plus his one year in the pros.
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I don't care if you would be worried with this team. Yes I went against the grain this year by not drafting a RB in the first two rounds, however this year is way different than others. If you can't see that then that is your problem not mine. After the top tier RBs, Holmes, Tomlinson, Green, Portis, and Alexander are gone then the rest can throw 6-20 in a hat, mix em up and pick. That is just my opinion and we will see who is right at the end of the season. I would much rather have Randy Moss and Culpepper than not and have one of the 6-20 RBs just so I can have an RB. Like I said any of those RBs would be fine #2s but to count on them as #1s without Moss and Culpepper would not be a good time to me. You have to look at every year differntly and not always go by the book. i am not a big fan of having a WR/RB or a QB/RB from the same team as you are hoping for too much. However, a QB/WR from the same team is entirely different. If I had Moss and playing against a team with Culpepper then it sucks and vice versa. I see no problem with having a great QB/WR combo from the same team. I think you need to differentiate some things. In 2001 Bruce had 1106 yards and only 6 TDs. Bruce barely made 1000 yards in 2002 and had only 7 TDs. In 2003 he didn't make it to 1000 yards and had only 5 TDs. He is a receiver in steady decline with an awful QB. If that is the chance you want to take then so be it. Have fun hoping he comes through for you on a weekly basis. I am not the only one who seems to like Walker. Almost every insider has him ranked in the top 15. He has size and speed and near the red zone he should be the go to guy, not Bubba Franks. he was very consistent towards the end of the year last year with TDs and became Favres go to guy. Plus is going into his third year which is the break out year for WRs. Lelie is also going into his third year and should be Plummers main option. Rod Smith is clearly near the end of his career. Lelie has had an awesome off season and has added a lot of muscle and kept his speed. Plummer was pretty good at the end of last year after coming back from his injury. I have no problems with him throwing the ball to Lelie. He is also ranked by many insiders aghead of Bruce and Lelie is my #3 receiver behind Moss and Walker. In the league I am in all he has to do is produce like a TE and I will be fine. He should have no problem doing that and more. Andre Johnson and Charles Rogers do have a lot of talent but I would not count on him as my #1 receiver. They will only be going into their 2nd years and WRs take time to develop. I think I am way better off going with Thomas Jones and Chris Brown as my number 1 and 2 backs than counting on those guys as a #1 WR. Bennett and Westbrook too big of an injury risk. At 5'8"/5'9" I don't want to count on Westbrook as my #1 RB for an entire year. Plus they throw the ball a ton in both of these offenses. Give me Thomas Jones and Chris Brown over either of these two guys. NEXT! MCNABB AS A PURE PASSER? YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME??!?!?! Isn't this what is considered as his biggest weakness? He is very inaccurate. Come on now! McNair also missed one game last year due to injury, week 15, and another to rest him for the playoffs in week 17. I know a lot of fantasy teams that went down because of him in the playoffs last year during week 15. He is always dinged up. Culpepper has a ton of weapons. Onterrio Smith a is real good pass catching back. Kleinsasser is a very good H-back. Moss/Burelson/Robinson/Campbell is a very good group of WRs. I don't know what your on. Culpepper has put up a ton of points for a couple years now. He can be a fantasy football MVP. I must hand it to you, you have your reasonings, you have an idea and plan of which way to go, but I don't see your option as being better compared to where I drafted. I actually find it making my team worse. I guess that is why I drafted the way I did. Counting on Westbrook or Bennett to make it through a full season and also get a lesser WR/WB combo seems a little bit far fetched to me, but hey whatever.
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Capeable yes, likely no. 1000 yards is not saying much anyways, what is that, 62 yards per game? Not very good, but ok. To say that any of these WRs will do what you stated is a big reach. Chris Chambers has never had 1000 yards and caught over 10 TDs once, last year. With Booker and McMichael getting more TD looks I doubt those numbers will go up. Isaac Bruce barely went over 1000 yards 2 years ago and didn't make it to 1000 yards last year. he hasn't seen double digits TDs in 5 years and his last three years were 6, 7, and 5 He is in a steady decline. Peerless Price has had one good year when he was a #2 receiver. He has never had 10 or more TDs in a year. and besides the 2002 year he has never had more than 900 yards. Wayne is just awful and disappointing every single year. He has never been over 900 yards and has never caught more than 7 TDs. Robinson is NOT opposite Moss, Burelson is. Robinson is in Coach Tice's doghouse for supposedly nursing an injury. Tice is pretty PO'd about that situation. I saw Robinson last year, but I have also seen him the last 3 years before that. His numbers were not that great last year and all he did was grab floating jump balls from Anthony Wright. One game against Seattle with 4 TDs and the rest of the year only 2. Not too spectacular if you ask me. He has only gone over 1000 yards once and that was his MAGICAL season with the Bears and he has never had 10 TDs. We will see how they pan out and how Dom holds up for an entire year of punishment. At 5'9" 220lbs he will most likely not be able to hold up and he showed a lot of wear last year in December. He did not play against Jax in December of last year due to injury. His 2 games following that against Tenn and TB were horrific. He only had one good game and that was against Indy and he didn'nt even reach 100 yards rushing. And who didn't have a good day running against Indy? He never even played a full year at LSU as a featured back and never had more than 193 carries or more than 931 yards and that was in college. He played behind LaBrandon Toefield at LSU as he was used primarily as an all-purpose back/kickoff returner/punt returner and that is eventually what he will be in the NFL. He will eventually be a 3rd down back/kickoff returner/punt returner. This is just my opinion of course, but usually backs built like Dom Davis, Charlie Garner, and Brian Westbrook do't make it through too many seasons. 5' 8" 203 lb Barry Sanders is an exception to that rule. I know Barry Sanders, Dom Davis is no Barry Sanders. Quentin Griffin and Dom Davis will eventually be the same backs being put in the same exact positions. Like it or not that is what I see that you got. Who cares what I think though. It is your team and if you are happy with it then that is all that matters. You are the one that has to be comfortable with it and has to play with it every week. Not me. We wil lsee how everything pans out during and after the season.
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We all have our opinions on these things. You like a certain player that other people dont and vice versa. We never know how things will work out until the season is played out. All we are doing is guessing and that is what makes fantasy football so much fun.
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HA HA ok if you are satisfied then that is all that matters. However, I consider: WR: Chris Chambers (Starter) WR: Isaac Bruce (Starter) WR: Peerless Price (Starter) WR: Reggie Wayne WR: Marcus Robinson As having zero WRs. The reason they used the 2nd on Hollings is because they KNOW Dom Davis is too small to play everyday and can not take the punishment as an everydown back. He was hurt often in college and was banged up last year without starting everyday. Get Hollings now and stash him on your bench because you are going to need him. Dom Davis will be hurt by the end of the year. I never said he would just be tossed to the side, however he will be hurt. Like I said as long as you are happy with it that is all that should matter.
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WOW did Harrison take a dip last year. Torry finally learned how to catch TDs last year? That is nice to see. You should actually show Moss' previous 3 years and show how consistent he has been since his ROOKIE SEASON! He has had single digit TDs only once during his career and that was 2002. Only been under 1300 yards once and that was in 2001 at 1233 yards. Holt has not been as consistent as Moss in the TD area. Harrison has been pretty damn consistent as well, however his yardage fell a ton last year. Good comparisons, but Moss is way more consistent across the board.
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Culpepper DID outscore everyone even without playing in those two games and he IS much better than McNair, McNabb, Vick, and every other running QB out there. MUCH BETTER! I expect Moss to have a better year than last simply because of the new emphasis on the 5 yard chuck rule. Hot is a nice player but he simply can not compare to Moss and neither can Harrison. They will get theirs but not like Moss. Holt has Bulger throwing to him whcih will automatically downgrade him. Bruce? Isaac Bruce? He is a stiff and a shell of his former self. Andre Johnson is good but he is only in his 2nd year. You sure you want him as your #1 receiver? WOW! Bennet gets zero TDs and is VERY injury prone as he is already injured. Onterrio Smith is the guy to look at in Minny. Westbrook is VERY injury prone and VERY small. Neither were in the third round. However I would rather take my chances with Chris Brown than either of those two. Again, Brooks has a torn quad. If you are implying htat this guy is a running QB you would be wrong. He very seldom runs. The scoring system does matter as Culpepper does everything, however if it is leaning towards favoring points in running then Culpepper is the best QB available hands down. If it is a TD favored league then Manning gets a slight edge. Favre, Hasslebeck, and Green were all solid last year but not in Culpeppers and Mannings class. I do expect bigger and better things from Hasselbeck, but the other two will do about what they did last year or a little less. I dont only feel good about this team, I feel GREAT about this team. I expect big things from T Jones and C. Brown. If that happens and Jevon Walker and Ashley Lelie breakthrough in their 3rd year as is expected then my team will dominate. No one will be able to match me. It would be much more concerend if I had Deuce as my #1 back, Bennett as my #2 and Bruce and Andre Johnson as my WRs with Brooks at QB. Now that I would be concerned about and that would make me sick to my stomach.
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I have a question for you though. Why waste room on your roster for another position player such as RB or WR with a backup TE or D/ST? And where are your kickers? You don't use any?
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No doubt about it. Not only is Culpepper the best fantasy QB but he can be the fantasy football MVP. He is simply amazing. Moss is so far ahead of any other WR that it is ridiculous. With the 5 yard rule being enforced this year he could do some amazing things. Torry Holt has Marc Bulger throwing to him. Marc Bulger sucks ass!
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Dude, in my league last year it was like this: Culpepper (playing in only 14 games) 333 points Manning 326 McNair 295 points Brooks 298 AND he has a torn quad this year. Both McNair and Brooks played in all 16 games. Culpepper didn't even play the whole 14 in which he started. Lets average in 2 more "average" weeks for Culpepper. That would give hiim about 24 per game and 48 more for the year. That would put him at 381 points!!! 381!!!!! That beats manning by about 60 and your other two jamokes by almost 100. So much for head and shoulders above everyone else, huh? I guess scoring systems still don't mean a lot, huh? If you think Manning would have made more sense then that is great for you. Unfortunately, you don't know enough about the league to even say if he was there for me to pick between the two. Manning was picked one pick before me. He was not even there for me to make that decision. After I picked Moss it went James, McAllister, Lewis, Faulk, F.Taylor, R. Johnson, Harrison, Manning, and then me with Culpepper. You ASSUME to much. Manning did not outscore Culpepper in my league. He was outscored by Culpepper playing by 7 while playing in 2 less games. Plus that was a career year for Manning and the best he has ever done with controlling his INTs. You are way off base in your judgements of those RBs. I like Barlow and I wish he would have been there with my 3rd pick, however I would not take him in the 2nd round, never! None of those backs are locks for anything. Dom Davis was banged up a lot last year and has been in pre season. What makes you think he can take the punishment. The Texans did not give up a 2nd round pick on Tony Hollings for nothing. Stephen Davis is old and always done by the end of the season. Every single year he breaks down at the end. I don't want a back like that, but I hope someone like you takes him everytime. You and others like you overvalue him. Dillon? Did I not show you how drastically over valued he is in my last post? Travis Henry is solid but his situation is a bit murky and has just as many questions as T. Jones, L. Suggs, and C. Brown. He has been banged up quite a bit the last couple of years and now a 1st round pick wants to take over for him. What do you think is going to eventually happen? I doubt he will get all the TDs you speak of. Yards maybe but TDs, NO! Ok, yes Priest Holmes had 1000 yards and 7 TDs in 1998. Do you even remember that year? In 2 games against Cincinatti he totalled 400 yards and 3 TDs. He also had 132 and 1 TD verse the Lions and 103 and 2 TDs verse the Indy Colts. The only other game in which he went above 70 yards was against the Oakland Raiders and that was a 27 carry 99 yard ZERO TD effort. So as you can see he was able to put up great #s behind a damn good offensive line against ONLY bad teams. He then went on to be replaces by Errictt Rhett in 1999 and by Jamal Lewis in 2000. If you don't think that is a fair comparison between he and Thomas Jones then I don't know what you are thinking. Holmes ws a undrafted FA. Jones was a very high first round pick. He has been able to keep a starting job because of freak injuries. It seems like you read a lot of articles so how you could not know this is beyond me. Last year he played behind a decent buy not great Oline and looked VERY good when given the chance. Chris Brown has been very stellar in his performances so far this pre season. Don't just look at the numbers, try to actually watch a game here or there. He has been a great pass blocker and has shown speed and strength. The O-Coordinator has said they are going to give him the ball a ton this year. I am not concerned about either Brown or Jones, they look phenomenal. I think you are reading out dated material, which is fine by me if your playing in my league. I hope everyone reads the outdated articles and I can get steals like I did. Try checking out some sites such as KFFL or Fanball and see what they say about Suggs. Suggs has been given the starting job. Yes Green may see some carries, but damn this is my 3rd RB here. How many teams have Moss Culpepper and 3 solid RBs? Not many if any at all. We will see how pro bowl caliber Suggs is. Before he blew out his knee he was the #1 RB in college. I really don't think you know what your talking about. You think I don't know that jackson is not going to be a full time player until Faulk gets hurt. Trust me Faulk is done. No knees. Faulk will not be a full time player either and he was taken in rounds 2-3 and sometimes round 1. I got this guy in the 10th round!!!!!! If he takes over the full time job then this is just a bonus. Come on now you are in 8 leagues and you don't know this? Eddie George IS BROKEN DOWN!!! He is done. Parcells has basically said this as he is not going to be the 20-30 carry a game guy he once was. Have you watched any pre season football? The guy is done. Julius JOnes was a 2nd round pick. They passed on Stephen Jackson because they wanted Jones. Come on man, you must be kidding me here, right?!?!?! I got him in the 8th round, the same round where people are taking Rod Smith, Keyshawn Johnson, Chris Chambers, Deshaun Foster, and Charlie Garner. Eddie George was taken a round earlier and he is DONE! Do you really watch football? Do you really listen to stuff that is going on or do you just read outdated articles? Are you comparing Moss to other RBs or are you comparing Moss to other WRs? Jeeze! I know he is so great that you would like to compare him to the ELITE RBs but WRs just dont get as many rushing yards as RBs get receiving yards. As far as TDs go he outscored every RB except for 2, Preist Holmes and Ahman Green, last year. He has only had one single digit TD year. That is more than I can say for most RBs. You better hope Deuce has another good 13 TD year, becase he has only been around 2 years and that is his career best. You seem to like him a lot and I hope he works oiut for you, but he has not looked the same without his fullback and Clevelands running game has looked very good with the addition of Terrell Smith. Sorry, but that is true. Deuce seems to have one of the easiest schedules for a RB this year, but I just don't have the faith in him that you have. To each their own. Another guy in our league tried to go your route with McAllister and Harrison and then try to get a sleeper RB or that further down but was unable to do so. He ended up with Duce Staley as his 2nd RB and taking Hines Ward in the third because the RB he had hoped to be there was not there. Go any way you want, but after those top 5 RBs are gone I will take Moss every single time as NO ONE compares to that freak at WR. Ha ha, you continue on thinking that you can get a comparable receiver to Moss. There just isn't one. As far as the bye week goes, I could care less about ONE week. David Carr should do just fine as my backup as he is playing Oakland that week and Tyrone Calico will be back by then and is playing San Diego that week. Not like my WR matters because I can plug in any shmoe at WR to match up against the likes of Joe Horn, Isaac Bruce (who is done) or an Andre Johnson. If you are really concerened about studs being off on a bye week then why draft anyone at all? They all have bye weeks. Seattle Detroit and Dallas will also be off that same week so I wont have to worry about hasselbeck, r.williams, c. rogers, d. jackson, or k. robinson.
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I think all you guys that put any other WR in Moss' class should go look up his #s. No one touches the guy. He puts up numbers that rival some RBs #s. I mean he could, in any given year, put up 1800 yards and 20 TDs. He has gotten better and become a more complete WR every single year. Look at the last three years: Yards: 2001 - 1233 2002 - 1347 2003 - 1632 TDs 2001 - 10 2002 - 7 2003 - 17 During his 6 year career he has been held to single digit TDs only once and that was in 2002. It is easy not to like the guy as a person, but you can not tell me he is not the best WR around. He is the most consistent WR you can possibly grab and without a doubt THE BEST! He has no rival. Please guys look up the #s before you decide to hate a player. Holt? Ward? Harrison? Owens? PLEASE!!! You will need 2 of any of these guys to make Moss a non factor against that owner.
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WA WA WHAT!!!!! Have you seen the Rams offense? No line and a QB who can't throw deep. That is not good for either Isaac Bruce or Torry Holt. It has been said and written by many insiders that Bulger throws the worst deep ball in the league. THe one thing that may help the Rams offense is that their D is sooooooo bad. They will be behind in many games and will have to air it out a lot to catch up.
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Robinson is now the 3rd receiver. Burelson is the 2nd receiver. They have good depth at the WR position not to mention all of their backs can catch as well as Kleinsasser as the H-back. Plus Culpepper is the most durable running QB which makes him the fantasy QB to have.
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This is a very solid team. Looks to have depth all around. If Porter works out for you you should win the league hands down.
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what are you smokin?
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LT at RB is good, other than that your RBs are mediocre. WRs all suck except for Walker who could be a potential stud. Very good team up and down though. I relaly like Gates if Brees or Rivers have time to throw.
