southsideirish

I think she deserved the chair in the face more than she will deserve the money that is coming her way. JMO.

You can't be serious. If someone threatens a member of your family with rape or murder or any other type of bodily harm then how can you not get upset about that? If some psycho fan ever does threaten a player to raper or murder a family member then that player has the right to do whatever he feels necessary. How do you know if the fan should be taken seriously or not? There are a lot of psychos out there. A player has all his private information thrown around all over the place for psycho fans to find and do what they wish. You seriously think that reaping the benefits of being in the spotlight should also come with these types of negatives? If so then something seriously has to be done about how close fans get to players and how they are able to interact with them.

That is where it all started, how did it get off track?

Now you completely lost me. What the hell are you talking about now? Like I said, I could care less what someone says unless they are threatening harm to my family. I am in no way defending what this guy Fransisco did. He was way out of line.

I was not talking about kicking someone's ass because they happen to say you suck. I am talking about running after someone and kicking their ass and taking your hat back because they came down and stole it off your head. Stick up for yourself if some one takes your hat off your head. By allowing that and calling for security you look like a little sissy boy waiting for your mommy and daddy to come down and protect you. Stand up for yourself and protect yourself.

OK then we were. I was not talking about the chair incident. By incorrectly quoting me you made yourself unclear. I would not have responded to your post if it did not quote me as if I was arguing against your point. Its ok though. No harm no foul.

Steff you and I are talking about 2 completely different things. Please look back, I am in no way defending the Texas incident at all or what Frank Francisco did. He is a complete moron for what he did.

It is not about fighting, it is about sticking up for yourself, having some character and dignity. It is about getting back what is rightfully yours. It is hardly an Irish thing, but it may be a male thing.

YASNY, did you actually look at what I was talking about. I could care less about a few words thrown my way. However, if someone touches me in anyway to harm me, comes after me, or takes something from me then I have the right to go after that person. In this instance I was talking about the jamoke that stole kreuter's hat. There is no way Kreuter is going to call for security int hat instance. Your first instinct is to catch the asshole that took what is yours, even if it is a hat that you can easily replace. The only words that I could see being able to set someone off and be able to justify a player attacking a fan is if someone threatend harm to a family member. That is all.

Are you kidding me? You are going to call security after that? I bet absolutely no one would do that. Your first instint is to chase that rat bastard down. He came after you, took something of yours and ran off with it. Your first instinct is not to call for security, it is to get that ass munch! That is like saying it is ok for someone to take whatever they want from me because I can just call a cop to come and chase him down. That is messed up. The players have a right to stick up for themselves, especially in a case like that. Anyways, I enjoyed reading the page 2 article of all the crazy fan/player incidents. The Jimmy Piersall situation was great.

What are you smoking? THat is not true at all. What cost them the game was 4 turnovers and only getting one turnover. The blocked field goal returned for the TD was huge! We also had a ton of penalties. Terrell looked great, the lack of a veteran #1 receiver was not what cost us the game at all.

Please do you think that he even nows that Frank Francisco is a former White Sox? I highly doubt it.

What if someone takes your hat off your head and runs up the stairs with it. Then can a player attack that fan?

I say this to both you and WSF, Adrian Peterson is more than capable to back up Thomas Jones. I was at the game on Sunday and A Train looked very slow. In the pre season, which I know a lot of you don't put a lot of stock into, Peterson looked very good and very capable to handle backup duties.

Two words: f*** NO

Consider the source, Boston Gammons.

No that would be very silly for you. Chris Simms will be the starting QB in TB by the 5th game I would say. Brad Johnson will be useless to you this season. Clinton Portis and Ahman Green are very comparable so I don't think you would be gaining much there, if anything at all. Keep what you have. Leftwich is better than Johnson.

Priest is 5'9" 213, Griffin is 5'7" 195, seems to be a bit of a difference in size there. Tatum Bell is not listed ahead of Hearst, but come on, does anyone really expect Hearst to be a starting RB anymore? Depth Chart link: Denver Broncos Depth Chart No the Broncos have not turned out stud RBs for the last 4-5 years. They have had a stud RB since 1995, with the exception of 2001 when they used a three headed monster of Davis, Anderson, and Gary: 4 years of Terrell Davis 95-98, 1 of Olandis Gary 99, 1 of mike Anderson 2000, and 2 of Clinton Portis 2002-2003. 1995, 1999, and 2001 were the only years they did not have a back go over 1500 yards. As I said the only reason I would be trading for Bell is so I would have Griffin's backup because I do not feel confident enough in Griffin staying healthy. Shanahan has also used the highest pick, 2nd round 41st overall, on an RB since he has been with the Broncos on Tatum Bell. Do you really think he wants him to sit on the bench all year? This would gaurantee me of having Denver's starting RB, which you can see is a very valuable commodity.

Both are long gone. The only reason I even wanted Bell is because he is a back up to Quentin Griffin, who I have. That way I can have the Denver RB. I don't think Faulk will either, but I don't own Faulk and Faulk's O-Line is not really all that great. From what I have heard they are going to need to keep Faulk, or whoever takes his place, in the backfield to help pass protect instead of running routes to receive the ball. You guys think that Quentin Griffin will make it through the entire year healthy? This is the problem, I really don't think that someone his size can.

WHy don't you think Bell will see much time in Denver? YOu think Griffin can hold up?

Would you trade Stephen Jackson RB for the Rams straight up for Tatum Bell RB for the Broncos? I have Quentin Griffin as well so it would definately give me Denver's starting RB for the year. What do you think?

Why? Seattle would have took Borchard instead of Reed? I have never heard that report

If you think it is ok for anyone just to run onto the field as long as they don't hurt anyone then I think you have some growing up to do.

Redskins say Portis is fine: Redskins about Portis CBS.Sportsline.com issues an apology: CBS Sportsline is sorry

You will not be able to find this anywhere on the web, but I was able to cut and paste what was on that site. If anyone doesn't believe that they ever reported it then PM me and I will send you what it looked like. If this is not true then this goof Bill Devaney should never be believed again. That was a bunch of horses***. He gave me a scare as I have Clinton Portis in my keeper league. F'n jerkoff!