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Stick around Ribbie...sure a few people are over-reacting, even if it is the vast majority. We are a good team and if they don't accomplish things this year it will be a dissapointment but hey we won last year and if things don't work out this year (and the odds of us winning it all, while they are good, they are obviously far from a lock) I'm confident in our staff to make thing even better for next year. I don't get it. We get a great pitching performance and aside from one inning in this series it was 3 strong pitching performances. We may have lost the series but I'm a lot less concerned today than I was entering the series, I'll tell you that much. The Tigers are a good team and the Twins/Yanks are good teams that are close to us in the Wild Card, but the Sox still have all the talent in the world and i'm not going to let a little losing streak discourage me. If people want to be ridiculous and put up choke avatars and the such fine, but I don't see how the hell this team is choking. They play hard and they never quit, if they fail they fail, but it won't be because our team didn't try.

Count...shut em down and go out and give us the 2nd really good start of the series and a series victory. LETS GO SOX

Javier Vazquez can not pitch out of the pen. Why you ask? Because he can't pitch with runners on. When he goes into the stretch he shortens his leg kick and this gives him all kinds of troubles with his arm not being where it needs to be and its why his breaking pitches flatten out and the big inning erupts. Sure, he may be coming in without anyone on from time to time and thats fine, but I am not about to bring him out with runners on. I'd prefer Coop to continue working with Javy (and I hope Javy is responding and listening and being very attentive) on coming up with a routine of how to pitch with runners on (I'm not talking about pitch selection, rather something he can think everytime he is pitching from the stretch so that it reminds him to calm down after giving up a couple hits and to make sure with the lower leg kick that he works extra hard to keep his arm in the proper spot. Both of these things will prevent him from overthrowing and flattening his breaking balls.

I'm sorry, I think Gibbons was a total prick about this. I heard a guy talking about how things went down on Cold Pizza this morning nad Gibbons was yelling at Hilly threatening to fight him, etc and Hilly just stood there. Gibbons than told him to go home and Hilly stayed in the clubhouse and eventually got word that he was gone.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 11:38 PM) Is their business aspects involved with this? Such as, if the site is cleaned its value increases. I could be way off -- I'm not exactly a business student -- but I know personally you couldn't care less. Didn't want to leave this out there un-answered and I can answer it really quickly, I have no intentions of selling Soxtalk. I've turned down numerous offers over the years. This place opened up as a way to discuss Sox stuff and in all reality its turned into so much more than just that. And Flash like I said I completely respect your opinion and realize these type of comments show that you guys care about this site and I think thats what makes Soxtalk so special.

Snakes on a Plane's debut is getting closer

I'll make one response to this recent change. The change was made because "you can write a legitimate post without using a four letter word". I realize we've always been loose on languange and while we aren't about to get all strict there are places where the line has to be drawn. More and more we are getting younger and younger members and while I realize people will see and use these sort of words in there everyday life, it doesn't necessarily need to be an everyday reality on Soxtalk. I think we are all capable of getting our point across without using *f*ck*, *sh*t* or *b*tch*. However, in instances where it needs to be said, its still tolerated..sure it will be prettied up a bit with a fish, spiff or beach but the meaning will still be there. I've long said this site isn't about catering to the White Sox or the media. We have our own writers here, and our own media hookups (in terms of FutureSox) and the bottom line is that Sox fans and the membesr of this site come first. They always have and they always will. This site wouldn't be what it is today without posters like you, flash, and everyone else and I'll never forget that. But I truly believe this policy in addition to the removal of a few smilies (which were consistently used to degrade other members: roll eye smilies, puke smilie, etc) will help create a healthy and inciteful environment that encourages intelligent baseball discussion and debate.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 10:05 PM) To be honest, he's probably just trying to stick up for his staff. I think he realizes they're pitching like spiff. Your probably right and my guess is the last thing they need to do is hear it from someone else. They all know they've pitched like spiff, now its just a matter for them to go out and start getting better one start at a time.

QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 10:00 PM) ^^^^^^ Lovin the sig...brings back old memories Haha...give Rowand and Greasy the credit...it was there work. They found it and randomly got the idea to give it to me as my sig.

Interesting by Coop but I do think we'll see Javy turn the corner. I'm actually cautiously optimistic for some stupid reason. Maybe its just cause I'm in a really good mood.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 09:28 PM) Im not against getting Rowand back either, but thast trade is totally unbalanced. We get an older Tom Gordon and a CFer that we already decided was expendable earlier this offseason, and we give up our best starting pitching "prospect" in B-Mac and our top prospect in Fields. I laughed when I read the quote and the following replies that said it was a solid deal. Ya, in terms of what that post said we'd be giving up...awful. I wouldn't trade Bmac for both of em. If I deal Bmac its to get a guy that helps us now and 5 years from now (that means a player thats not only going to be good today, but 5 years from today as well).

Just put it up as my background (usually I use the calendar during the season) and it looks really snazzy on my computer. Great work as always.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 09:22 PM) Translation:

ROFL at Sammy. The guy seems to think he can pick and choose and that teams will just jump over him. Yes, I'm bias because I think he's a real tool, but I've never been one to doubt his ability (even if it was steroid inflated) and he was one of the savior's of baseball in 1998.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 08:48 PM) That's a quote from the Phillies board. *sigh* Right now I'm not against getting Rowand back since it may just mean we'd never ever ever see Mack in CF again. With Anderson there Ozzie still has it in his mind that he can play the matchups on ocassion and thats just not the right idea when you have as severe a defensive downgrade as there is between BA and Mack. And no I'm not saying I'd make that deal, but I'm making a point about how I'm not against an everyday CF if it means no more Mack in CF EVA.

It seems like the org and him had a parting of ways following him and his wife's adoption of a kid. He didn't get any congratulations or anything from the organization and the communication appeared to have been limited. Obviously the whole story isn't out there, but it sounds like a crappy job by Jays management, but I may not know the whole story. Either way they have 10 days to trade him, otherwise he'll become a free agent (since he won't be reporting to the minors).

QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) Can an mod or admin edit "Harrel" to "Harrell" in the title here as well as in the post in the FutureSox Forum? Thanks. Fixed

I use the Amex Blue Cash card, but for credit sake I'd advise you have a credit card or two and just make sure you pay all the bills. Its very beneficial and important to have a couple different versions of credit, especially when you plan on applying for a mortgage on a house.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) Am I the only one who sees the Twins picking him up.. They'd be nuts to touch him. Lecroy is awful.

They'll be able to get a whole lot for him but I don't know if I'm parting with an upper echelon prospect for a 3rd lefty reliever. I like his talent and his arm and he's been sucessful but I think the walks would drive Ozzie nuts and while Coop may be able to cut that down with his agressive throw strikes approach, we probably wouldn't reap the benefits of that right away. Plus if we are going to pick up a reliever and give up a major chip, it should be a righty.

The biggest pickup we could get are Javy and Freddy showing up. Freddy gave us a glimmer of hope by throwing harder and effectively against the Yanks for the final 3 innings and for those of you in the game thread I'm now convinced that we'll be able to get Javy turned around and that he'll have a very strong 2nd half. And no, I don't expect us to make much of a move because I honestly don't think the opportunity will be out there. If it was I'm sure Kenny would jump all over it, but I'd be really shocked if it happened.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) Or let everyone know they are and start a bidding war. I think in terms of a player at the deadline thats not a bad idea, but in terms of prospects you dont' want to let it out that your prospects are readily available. You want to have that leverage by saying how much you really like that guy and try to bargain down to try and put in some fight. Than you may all along know your willing to deal em, but because of the way you put it you only have to deal one and some other guys as opposed to two of the guys you really like. I don't think Fields or Sweeney will be dealt. But if he gets the right offer I'm sure he won't hesitate (especially in Fields case...the org likes Sweeney a lot; in fact I think we value him more than a lot of orgs would).

Broadway with a decent start, but he did give up a ton of hits.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 06:55 PM) Is it true? I have no idea, but I think DK mentioned that myspace pulled it which makes you think it may have been a hoax.

QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Jul 19, 2006 -> 06:50 PM) haha i mentioned it cuz chisoxfn has a sig of kenan and kel(btw i loved that show) Kel loves orange soda